I'm here boys! Good to see ya Robert, BB, and Dale. Wow...even JZ posting! So yeah, I use a post chiller in a saltwater Ice bath. Water temp is around 70 this time of year and I got the wort down to 44 like Robert said. The hydro sample warmed to 48, but the wort stay at 44. The doppelbock is in the freezer at 48 and there is activity today. Pitched a healthy WLP 833 starter (thank you Mr. Malty calc).