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Re: Pale vs Pilsner
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2011, 10:41:24 AM »
I don't know, maybe I have a low threshold for pils flavors.  Double Mountain uses it as their base malt in all of their beers (porters, IPAs, all of them), and I noticed the first time I visited their pub.  I think it's one of the reasons some of their beers are good but not great.

How would you characterize those pils flavors versus 2 row?  Eg, is it grainier than 2row or more bready? 

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Re: Pale vs Pilsner
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2011, 11:10:55 AM »
Pils malt tastes sweet to me, but a sort of grainy sweetness, as opposed to the bready grain character of something like Maris Otter or to a lesser extent domestic pale ale malts.
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Re: Pale vs Pilsner
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2011, 01:08:00 PM »
Pils malt tastes sweet to me, but a sort of grainy sweetness, as opposed to the bready grain character of something like Maris Otter or to a lesser extent domestic pale ale malts.
Yes, the sweetness seems a bit honey-like and the graininess reminds me of husks in the grain mill.  2-row pale malt is bready, almost like the crust of white bread.  Does that make any sense?
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Re: Pale vs Pilsner
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2011, 12:03:51 AM »
I agree that the pils is more grainy and the pale more bready.  But there is also a sulfury note to the pils malt that I pick up.  I'm not sure how else to describe it without a sample in front of me, it is borderline skunky but not the same as the light struck aroma/flavor.
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Re: Pale vs Pilsner
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2011, 06:04:07 AM »
to me pils give a "sharper taste than pale, on the grainy side, and depending on the brew, can exhibit some sulfur characteristics.

I't's this grain that imho gives a lot of the character onf Pilsners and American Lagers, and a few other beers and helps define the style of these beers.

I would love to taste a Triple side by side same recipe, one with Pale, the other with pils.
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Re: Pale vs Pilsner
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2011, 07:58:56 AM »
I would love to taste a Triple side by side same recipe, one with Pale, the other with pils.

This or a lager like a Dorty or Helles. I think Pils has a graininess that's almost sharp compared a more rounded (bready) malt flavor from 2 row.
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Re: Pale vs Pilsner
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2011, 12:09:31 PM »
I would love to taste a Triple side by side same recipe, one with Pale, the other with pils.

This or a lager like a Dorty or Helles. I think Pils has a graininess that's almost sharp compared a more rounded (bready) malt flavor from 2 row.

I get a bitter graininess from Pils. The only reason I'd use it is to get that flavor. Two-row has a more subtle malty grain flavor. To me.
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