Author Topic: Rate my system!  (Read 8159 times)

Offline gordonstrong

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1355
    • View Profile
    • BJCP
Re: Rate my system!
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2011, 11:53:38 AM »
Oh, no.  You didn't go there.  Look out, below.
Gordon Strong • Beavercreek, Ohio • AHA Member since 1997 • Twitter: GordonStrong

Offline Beer Monger

  • Brewer
  • ****
  • Posts: 484
  • ---Michael Dieterle--------- ---Seattle, WA
    • View Profile
    • Beer Monger - Adventures In the Wonderful World of Beer.
Re: Rate my system!
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2011, 11:54:10 AM »
Lol.  Uh oh.  Did I just open a can of worms?   :D
Beer Monger's Blog
Follow my Beer Monger page on Facebook!

Drink responsibly and stay safe out there.

Offline gordonstrong

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1355
    • View Profile
    • BJCP
Re: Rate my system!
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2011, 11:57:09 AM »
It's like saying to a wolf, "look, a steak."
Gordon Strong • Beavercreek, Ohio • AHA Member since 1997 • Twitter: GordonStrong

Offline hokerer

  • I spend way too much time on the AHA forum
  • ********
  • Posts: 2634
  • Manassas, VA
    • View Profile
Re: Rate my system!
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2011, 12:08:15 PM »
It's like saying to a wolf, "look, a steak."

"Werewolf"
"Werewolf !"
"There"
"What ?"
"There wolf... there castle"
Joe

Offline Beer Monger

  • Brewer
  • ****
  • Posts: 484
  • ---Michael Dieterle--------- ---Seattle, WA
    • View Profile
    • Beer Monger - Adventures In the Wonderful World of Beer.
Re: Rate my system!
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2011, 12:08:56 PM »
OK - I've read the basics.  The only down-side is that it can, apparently, affect extraction rates.  I've never calculated mine, so maybe I need to start...
Beer Monger's Blog
Follow my Beer Monger page on Facebook!

Drink responsibly and stay safe out there.

Offline denny

  • Administrator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 11670
  • Noti OR [1991.4, 287.6deg] AR
    • View Profile
    • Dennybrew
Re: Rate my system!
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2011, 12:20:08 PM »
I guess I just need a link to the definition.  What is 'batch sparging'? 

It's when you completely run off the wort from the mash, then add all the sparge water at once and run it off.  The full definition and technique is on my website at www.dennybrew.com .
Life begins at 60.....1.060, that is!

www.dennybrew.com

The best, sharpest, funniest, weirdest and most knowledgable minds in home brewing contribute on the AHA forum. - Alewyfe

Offline denny

  • Administrator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 11670
  • Noti OR [1991.4, 287.6deg] AR
    • View Profile
    • Dennybrew
Re: Rate my system!
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2011, 12:22:23 PM »
The only down-side is that it can, apparently, affect extraction rates.

A canard...many things can affect extraction rates.  My average efficiency is in the mid 80s, so it's not too bad.
Life begins at 60.....1.060, that is!

www.dennybrew.com

The best, sharpest, funniest, weirdest and most knowledgable minds in home brewing contribute on the AHA forum. - Alewyfe

Offline denny

  • Administrator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 11670
  • Noti OR [1991.4, 287.6deg] AR
    • View Profile
    • Dennybrew
Re: Rate my system!
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2011, 12:22:47 PM »
It's like saying to a wolf, "look, a steak."

It's kinda like you know me.....
Life begins at 60.....1.060, that is!

www.dennybrew.com

The best, sharpest, funniest, weirdest and most knowledgable minds in home brewing contribute on the AHA forum. - Alewyfe

Offline Beer Monger

  • Brewer
  • ****
  • Posts: 484
  • ---Michael Dieterle--------- ---Seattle, WA
    • View Profile
    • Beer Monger - Adventures In the Wonderful World of Beer.
Re: Rate my system!
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2011, 12:26:40 PM »
It's like saying to a wolf, "look, a steak."

It's kinda like you know me.....

I just tink of you as David St. Hubbins - it's the avatar.

You workin on a sex farm?  lol
Beer Monger's Blog
Follow my Beer Monger page on Facebook!

Drink responsibly and stay safe out there.

Offline Bret

  • Assistant Brewer
  • ***
  • Posts: 210
    • View Profile
Re: Rate my system!
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2011, 12:41:50 PM »
Phil's Sparger (I could use a new one - but they aren't made anymore).

The reason being that Dan Listermann said it was the most worthless piece of equipment he ever produced.

Why did he say this?  I have used mine for 15 years, and it works just fine.  I use a five gallon cylindrical cooler (blue) for a mash tun due to space constraints, so another (in addition to the two I use for well, coolers) big rectangular cooler and batch sparging don't work for me.
???
Member #: 900000767

Offline beersk

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1878
  • In the night!
    • View Profile
Re: Rate my system!
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2011, 12:49:41 PM »
It's like saying to a wolf, "look, a steak."

"Werewolf"
"Werewolf !"
"There"
"What ?"
"There wolf... there castle"
"Suit yourself.  I'm easy!"
Watch out for those Cross Dressing Amateurs!

Offline Beer Monger

  • Brewer
  • ****
  • Posts: 484
  • ---Michael Dieterle--------- ---Seattle, WA
    • View Profile
    • Beer Monger - Adventures In the Wonderful World of Beer.
Re: Rate my system!
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2011, 12:50:58 PM »
It's pronounced: 'eye-gore'!
Beer Monger's Blog
Follow my Beer Monger page on Facebook!

Drink responsibly and stay safe out there.

Offline denny

  • Administrator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 11670
  • Noti OR [1991.4, 287.6deg] AR
    • View Profile
    • Dennybrew
Re: Rate my system!
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2011, 12:54:23 PM »
Phil's Sparger (I could use a new one - but they aren't made anymore).

The reason being that Dan Listermann said it was the most worthless piece of equipment he ever produced.

Why did he say this?  I have used mine for 15 years, and it works just fine.  I use a five gallon cylindrical cooler (blue) for a mash tun due to space constraints, so another (in addition to the two I use for well, coolers) big rectangular cooler and batch sparging don't work for me.
???

It broke easily.  It seldom spun like it was supposed to, although the spinning made no difference anyway.  It lost heat as it spun (if it did) and from the distance the water had to fall from it.  And mainly that there were far easier and more effective ways to accomplish fly sparging.

Why couldn't you batch sparge with the equipment you already have?
Life begins at 60.....1.060, that is!

www.dennybrew.com

The best, sharpest, funniest, weirdest and most knowledgable minds in home brewing contribute on the AHA forum. - Alewyfe

Offline Bret

  • Assistant Brewer
  • ***
  • Posts: 210
    • View Profile
Re: Rate my system!
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2011, 01:04:46 PM »
Phil's Sparger (I could use a new one - but they aren't made anymore).

The reason being that Dan Listermann said it was the most worthless piece of equipment he ever produced.

Why did he say this?  I have used mine for 15 years, and it works just fine.  I use a five gallon cylindrical cooler (blue) for a mash tun due to space constraints, so another (in addition to the two I use for well, coolers) big rectangular cooler and batch sparging don't work for me.
???

It broke easily.  It seldom spun like it was supposed to, although the spinning made no difference anyway.  It lost heat as it spun (if it did) and from the distance the water had to fall from it.  And mainly that there were far easier and more effective ways to accomplish fly sparging.

Why couldn't you batch sparge with the equipment you already have?

Huh.  Mine did not break (15 years) spins as well as the first time, too.  Heat loss I hadn't considered and with 10-14 lbs.of grain in a five gallon cooler the falling distance is two to five inches.  Funny, it is what I first had and never had any issues that made me want to do it differently--I guess I'll have to think that over.

As for your last question, I would never let my beer anywhere near my camping coolers!  Let's just say the sanitization standards are a bit different!

Thanks for the reply, Denny. Cheers.
Member #: 900000767

Offline gordonstrong

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1355
    • View Profile
    • BJCP
Re: Rate my system!
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2011, 01:11:58 PM »
You can just fly sparge without the lawn whirlygig thing.  Leave an inch or so water on top of the grain bed.  Then who cares how the water gets onto it?  It's not like the sprinkling action is hitting the grain.  I just use the hose from my HLT pumped on top.  Run it in tangentially so it doesn't drill a hole into the bed.  It helps if you prep the grain bed before sparging by cutting channels into it with a thin spatula.  That was a Sierra Nevada tip.

Or you can do the Denny thing.  Both work.  It's just a means to an end.
Gordon Strong • Beavercreek, Ohio • AHA Member since 1997 • Twitter: GordonStrong