[jeffy]

Yeah i was expecting for people to take a while to respond.

And to respond to one of the first messages. I am making this batch for my buddies birthday in june because he asked me to.

Kegging and carbonating my own urine would be easier but i dont think he would enjoy it.

I ended up going with...

6 punds of Extra-light DME
1.2 oz Tettanger hops for 60 min
.2 oz tettanger and saaz for the last 15 min
and bohemian lager yeast Wyeast 2124


So far it seems really dark I was thinking of cutting back 3 pounds of DME and subbing something like rice solids does anyone have any suggestions?

So we did in fact not scare you away?  Cool!
I don't see much Mexican about your recipe, but I bet it makes good beer.

[Joe Sr.]

Yeah i was expecting for people to take a while to respond.

And to respond to one of the first messages. I am making this batch for my buddies birthday in june because he asked me to.

Kegging and carbonating my own urine would be easier but i dont think he would enjoy it.

I ended up going with...

6 punds of Extra-light DME
1.2 oz Tettanger hops for 60 min
.2 oz tettanger and saaz for the last 15 min
and bohemian lager yeast Wyeast 2124


So far it seems really dark I was thinking of cutting back 3 pounds of DME and subbing something like rice solids does anyone have any suggestions?

The last light lager I made (still in the keg) was 3.5 lb Breiss Pilsner DME, 1 lb Pils Malt, 2 lb flaked maize.  I over hopped it, but your hopping looks good.  It's crystal clear and the color of straw, so that much I hit right on.

[majorvices]

Yeah i was expecting for people to take a while to respond.

And to respond to one of the first messages. I am making this batch for my buddies birthday in june because he asked me to.

Kegging and carbonating my own urine would be easier but i dont think he would enjoy it.

I ended up going with...

6 punds of Extra-light DME
1.2 oz Tettanger hops for 60 min
.2 oz tettanger and saaz for the last 15 min
and bohemian lager yeast Wyeast 2124


So far it seems really dark I was thinking of cutting back 3 pounds of DME and subbing something like rice solids does anyone have any suggestions?

So we did in fact not scare you away?  Cool!
I don't see much Mexican about your recipe, but I bet it makes good beer.

agree,  but did he bother to read the rest of the thread? All the info he needs is there. A, FWIW, if you can;t maintain 48-52 steady fermentation temps I'd recommend going with a clean fermenting ale yeast (as was mentioned as well in the thread.)

[euge]

ckpash88 I would like to apologize for the "urine" suggestion. It was meant to be humorous, but was inappropriate in reality.

There's a wealth of info here so if you have any questions feel free to ask.

 

[ckpash88]

Oh i figure your were kidding. I was not offened by it.

I got the recipe from 200 clone recipe book.

I coppied it almost to the t but i upped the malt amount and added extra corn sugar but it seems a little dark for what i was going for.

I will let you know how it turns out in a month  and i plan on subbing in rice or corn maybe even both and i will tell you how that goes to.

If anyone has flavor additive other then hops, malt, and specialty grains let me know

[a10t2]

i plan on subbing in rice or corn maybe even both and i will tell you how that goes to.

You can't use corn or rice in an extract beer. You need a mash to convert the sugars.

[ckpash88]

I did a bud clone a year ago that I bought from the store as a kit and one of the packages was rice solids or something like that I know there is a with to get sugars  from rice without mashina

[tschmidlin]

Yes, you can use a product like rice solids, but you can't use rice or corn itself, that's all he was saying.

[ckpash88]

Yes yes he did. I need to read things a little more thuroughly lol. Thank you all for the responses they have been very helpful

[euge]

Yes yes he did. I need to read things a little more thuroughly lol. Thank you all for the responses they have been very helpful

Now if you can't lager the beer properly, then maybe a different yeast might help. I'm really enjoying the wlp0029 right now. Check it out.

[Malticulous]

You can't use corn or rice in an extract beer. You need a mash to convert the sugars.

But you can get corn in the extract,
http://www.williamsbrewing.com/AMERICAN-LAGER-EXTRACT-8-LBS-P1342C99.aspx
I've never used it.

[gordonstrong]

It's hard to get extract beers as light in color as you'd like.  Even if you use "extra light" extracts.  Seems you can do better with dry malt extract than liquid, but the color isn't going to be as light as if you just mashed a low-kilned malt yourself.  Since you're already using extra-light DME, not sure how much lighter you can go.

The color is coming from the malt, so subbing out DME for other stuff like rice syrup, will lighten the color.

Be careful in how hard and long you boil; those can develop additional color.  If you can do a full boil rather than a concentrated boil, that helps.

[Joe Sr.]

I suppose this gets back to Tom's "let's not fear the partial mash comment," but if you do a partial mash (where you can add in the corn or rice) and a late addition of you malt (liquid or dry) you'll be able to control the color much better.  Maybe not spot-on, but lighter than all extract for a 60 minute boil for sure.

Alternatively, I suppose you could just split the extract into an early and late addition.  This should help to keep the beer as light as possible but I don't know how much this would impact it.

[denny]

Now amercian hefeweizen, that should be banned.

Tom is my new hero!   

[denny]

Oh i figure your were kidding. I was not offened by it.

I got the recipe from 200 clone recipe book.

I coppied it almost to the t but i upped the malt amount and added extra corn sugar but it seems a little dark for what i was going for.

I will let you know how it turns out in a month   and i plan on subbing in rice or corn maybe even both and i will tell you how that goes to.

If anyone has flavor additive other then hops, malt, and specialty grains let me know

Take a look at my Cream Swill recipe.  It uses rice solids and does a very small mash with 6 row barley and flaked corn.  I think it may be just what you're looking for.

http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/CreamSwill