[troy@uk]

I am going to make a Helles Bock (I know it will be too late for May Day) with an infusion mash rather than a traditional decoction.  I want to use about 20% Munich 10L and was going to use about 1/4 lb Melanoidan Malt to make up for the lack of decoction, but it is 20L.  I want to keep this beer as light in color as possible. 

How much more Munich 10L would I have to add to get the same amount of melanoidan flavor as the melanoidan malt?

[weithman5]

i dont't think i would worry about it and not put any melainoidan in it. and i wouldn't worry about the lack of decoction much either.

[denny]

i dont't think i would worry about it and not put any melainoidan in it. and i wouldn't worry about the lack of decoction much either.

I totally agree on both counts.

[Kit B]

Is a decoction not worth the time?
Isn't that what helps make the style, though?

Not talking Munich Helles...Helles Bock.

[denny]

Is a decoction not worth the time?
Isn't that what helps make the style, though?

Not talking Munich Helles...Helles Bock.

Yeah, I realize you mean helles bock.  Made one a few weeks back.  You'll have to decide about decoction for yourself, but in an experiment I did, the conclusion was that a single decoction with a 30 min. did not make a difference that people noticed.  If you'd like to read it, go to http://www.ahaconference.org/wp-content/uploads/presentations/2008/DennyConn.pdf and start on pg. 25.

[speed]

i did a triple decoction bock  a couple months ago, yea it was good , was it worth the extra time? no

[Kit B]

Yeah, I realize you mean helles bock.  Made one a few weeks back.  You'll have to decide about decoction for yourself, but in an experiment I did, the conclusion was that a single decoction with a 30 min. did not make a difference that people noticed.  If you'd like to read it, go to http://www.ahaconference.org/wp-content/uploads/presentations/2008/DennyConn.pdf and start on pg. 25.

Interesting.
Thank you.