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So your Barley Crusher won't Crush?
« on: April 01, 2011, 09:15:12 PM »
I have a Barley Crusher that is 4 years old, I have oiled her and taken great care of her but now she won't crush. The free wheel won't spin to get the crush started. I help the dead wheel and then she works for awhile, but It is a bit to ask to keep the dead wheel running with your hand. I'm sure a few of you have had this problem what have you done to eliminate it. I love my Barley Crusher but not now.
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Re: So your Barley Crusher won't Crush?
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2011, 09:35:56 PM »
I have a Barley Crusher that is 4 years old, I have oiled her and taken great care of her but now she won't crush. The free wheel won't spin to get the crush started. I help the dead wheel and then she works for awhile, but It is a bit to ask to keep the dead wheel running with your hand. I'm sure a few of you have had this problem what have you done to eliminate it. I love my Barley Crusher but not now.

I also have a troublesome BC. The grain won't feed easily. Perhaps it is time for an upgrade.
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Re: So your Barley Crusher won't Crush?
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2011, 10:50:42 PM »
I was having the same problem and found the alignment on the free wheel to be the problem. I had tightened the bolts holding the sides to the base too much and tweaked it just enough to cause a problem. Try making a new base out the hardest wood or plastic you can find and use the old base as a template. I did this about 3 weeks ago and I have put over 100 pounds of grain through and knock on wood (pun intended) not one problem so far.

If this does not help, right the guy from Barley Crusher bcproducts@peoplepc.com As it says on their website. “Precision machining with Quality Control and a LifeTime Warranty assures the homebrewer that this will be the only grain mill they will ever purchase!”

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Re: So your Barley Crusher won't Crush?
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2011, 07:27:22 PM »
Mine's worn out too. I turned the free side around an it helped. I still have to reach under to help it grab from time to time.
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Re: So your Barley Crusher won't Crush?
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2011, 07:31:13 PM »
Mine was doing that same thing after about 3 batches. I pulled it apart, cleaned the bearings up on the rollers, and once back together, good as new.
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Re: So your Barley Crusher won't Crush?
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2011, 09:08:06 PM »
Mine was doing that same thing after about 3 batches. I pulled it apart, cleaned the bearings up on the rollers, and once back together, good as new.

Did you take it completely apart? How did you get the knurled knobs off? They must unscrew.
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Re: So your Barley Crusher won't Crush?
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2011, 09:28:16 PM »
I have posted before on several forums about the great BC. I loved my old BC, but they do wear out over time. My Knurling was simply to the point of being smooth and the dead roller was simply that, dead... I have flopped it several times. It's not a base adjustment, it is simply worn out. I moved on... But I will not take away from all the great years and batches my old BC gave me. At the same time, I am LOVING my new getup...! This thing is a hawg!



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Re: So your Barley Crusher won't Crush?
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2011, 06:44:04 PM »
Mine was doing that same thing after about 3 batches. I pulled it apart, cleaned the bearings up on the rollers, and once back together, good as new.

Did you take it completely apart? How did you get the knurled knobs off? They must unscrew.

Euge,
The phillips head type screws along the back plate basically lock in your mill gap knobs (which are basically eccentric cams).
You need to unscrew all the screws on both faceplates (those would be the thinner sheets of aluminum), i.e., front and back sides.
You need to unscrew the two larger hex screws on the undersurface of the particle board base.
Then you should be able to disassemble the box-like mill housing.
Then do as weaze suggests and clean the axle and sides of the rollers.
You can get cheap o-ring rubber gaskets to put on the rollers so that the free roller will be driven by the drive roller, the problem is that the rubber tends to get cut up and eventually breaks off and ends up in the mash.  (doesn't seem to cause any untoward efects though).  It gets dumped out with the spent mash.

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Re: So your Barley Crusher won't Crush?
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2011, 07:00:27 AM »
ditto lonniemac - get a Monster.  Best new tool of the decade for my brewhouse.  BC had around 2tons through it, but its been decommissioned.

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Re: So your Barley Crusher won't Crush?
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2011, 08:56:50 PM »
I have more than 2 tons on mine, I'l give those boys a chance to help out. The Monster looks good though, maybe the hardened rollers that are 2" in diameter.
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Re: So your Barley Crusher won't Crush?
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2011, 06:52:21 AM »
maybe the hardened rollers that are 2" in diameter.

yeah, that's what I got - they are sweet.  I do my "Tim Allen/Tool Time" grunt when I crush grains now.  That helps I think.
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Re: So your Barley Crusher won't Crush?
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2011, 03:25:27 PM »
You can purchase new rollers from BC Products for $50.00.  The roller knurls are all that really wear out.  Fifty bucks is a lot cheaper than buying a new mill.

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Re: So your Barley Crusher won't Crush?
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2011, 03:36:01 PM »
The BC touts a lifetime warranty. Should not need 50 bucks, although that is a pittance really. I gave the mill to a friend that didn't have one and told him to pay the 50 and get new rollers, and basically have a new mill that will last a long time for his brewing needs. I have not heard any great stories of folks trying to get new rollers under the warranty, actually, I have heard otherwise... You can't beat 2" hardened steel or stainless on the MM, but some don't need a MM.

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Re: So your Barley Crusher won't Crush?
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2011, 04:26:03 PM »
The rubber "O" ring on the free roller works wonders for this problem.
My old Automatic grain mill did the same thing after the first year.
Probably put ten more years on that old mill using this trick.
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Re: So your Barley Crusher won't Crush?
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2011, 05:03:46 AM »
  BC had around 2 tons through it, but its been decommissioned.