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Bigger fermenter? - but I have no pump!
« on: April 07, 2011, 08:32:08 AM »
For those of you who brew 10-gallon batches.  What do you use as your fermenter?  

I currently have to 'split' each batch, because I still use 6.5 Gal. carboys as my fermenters (I put 1/2 the batch in each).  

What are you using for a fermenter that will hold all 10 gallons?  Also, how do you move that big, heavy thing when you have to rack to a 2nd fermenter?  I have no pumps.....
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Re: Bigger fermenter - but I have no pump.
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2011, 08:35:10 AM »
For those of you who brew 10-gallon batches.  What do you use as your fermenter? 

I currently have to 'split' each batch, because I still use 6.5 Gal. carboys as my fermenters (I put 1/2 the batch in each). 

What are you using for a fermenter that will hold all 10 gallons?  Also, how do you move that big, heavy thing when you have to rack to a 2nd fermenter?  I have no pumps.....

14.5 gallon conical.  I rarely use a secondary anymore, but when I rack to kegs, the out valve  sits just high enough over a corney for me.

some people ferment in kegs from Sabco, or corney kegs.  those you can rack via CO2 pressure, and not have to worry about lifting.

FWIW, I lift my full 14.5 gal conical into my upright chest freezer, which isn't terrible, but you can devise a ramp or other device to help you out.
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Re: Bigger fermenter - but I have no pump.
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2011, 08:44:34 AM »
For those of you who brew 10-gallon batches.  What do you use as your fermenter? 

I currently have to 'split' each batch, because I still use 6.5 Gal. carboys as my fermenters (I put 1/2 the batch in each). 

What are you using for a fermenter that will hold all 10 gallons?  Also, how do you move that big, heavy thing when you have to rack to a 2nd fermenter?  I have no pumps.....

14.5 gallon conical.  I rarely use a secondary anymore, but when I rack to kegs, the out valve  sits just high enough over a corney for me.

some people ferment in kegs from Sabco, or corney kegs.  those you can rack via CO2 pressure, and not have to worry about lifting.

FWIW, I lift my full 14.5 gal conical into my upright chest freezer, which isn't terrible, but you can devise a ramp or other device to help you out.

1. I'd LOVE to get a conical - but the cost!  Ungh!!!

2. How do you fill your conical from your brew kettle w/o a pump?  I assume the top of the fermenter is above your boil kettle(?)
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Re: Bigger fermenter - but I have no pump.
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2011, 08:50:49 AM »
1. I'd LOVE to get a conical - but the cost!  Ungh!!!

2. How do you fill your conical from your brew kettle w/o a pump?  I assume the top of the fermenter is above your boil kettle(?)

1).  I hear ya, fun toy, but totally not necessary.

2).  My burner sits on a stand about 2 -2.5 feet off the ground (about 8in higher than a propane tank) and then with the burner and kettle, the height of the ball valve is more than sufficient to let gravity feed into the fermenter.
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Re: Bigger fermenter - but I have no pump.
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2011, 08:55:05 AM »
1. I'd LOVE to get a conical - but the cost!  Ungh!!!

2. How do you fill your conical from your brew kettle w/o a pump?  I assume the top of the fermenter is above your boil kettle(?)

1).  I hear ya, fun toy, but totally not necessary.

2).  My burner sits on a stand about 2 -2.5 feet off the ground (about 8in higher than a propane tank) and then with the burner and kettle, the height of the ball valve is more than sufficient to let gravity feed into the fermenter.
Lucky you.  I guess I need to start saving up for a conical & a pump...

Of course, I'd like to start building my next system (I want to build a 20 gallon system w/ pumps next time), but I'm just not financially ready - not even close.
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2011, 09:35:18 AM »
I do primaries in two 6.5 gal carboys.  It makes it easy to pitch a different yeast into each half.  I make a house IPA and split it with US05 and a Belgian yeast for variety.
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Re: Bigger fermenter? - but I have no pump!
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2011, 09:38:27 AM »
I do primaries in two 6.5 gal carboys.  It makes it easy to pitch a different yeast into each half.  I make a house IPA and split it with US05 and a Belgian yeast for variety.
Yeah, I do that sometimes too to experiment.  Also, I often keg 1/2 a batch and bottle 1/2.  Having it split between 2 carboys makes that pretty easy.

I guess I'm just looking to the future.  I've always got big dreams when it comes to brewing equipment.  ;) 
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Re: Bigger fermenter? - but I have no pump!
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2011, 09:40:45 AM »
I split my batches into carboys too, and often pitch different yeasts like Jeff does.  I prefer it that way.  I might get a conical eventually, I think that would be great, but it's pricey and I'm not sure it is really what I want to spend brewing money on.
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2011, 10:09:40 AM »
I do primaries in two 6.5 gal carboys.  It makes it easy to pitch a different yeast into each half. 

+1

I have a conical too, but not a big one.  I do use a pump to transfer, though.
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Re: Bigger fermenter? - but I have no pump!
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2011, 10:18:47 AM »
Blichmann conical which is elevated in the garage (40F in the winter, add heat with a Ranco controller) then rack down to cornies or to carboys when done.

Sometimes I go into the 6.5 gal. carboys for ales.

Blatz - you must be a big guy to lift a full conical. 
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Re: Bigger fermenter? - but I have no pump!
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2011, 10:37:18 AM »
Blatz - you must be a big guy to lift a full conical. 

yeah, I'm bigger than the average bear, but one of my other hobbies is staying in shape - lots of deadlifting, cleans, etc. so perhaps I take lifting the conical into the fridge for granted.

in my upcoming brewhouse build, I will be pumping across the room into the conical already inside the fridge, so I won't have to worry about that anymore.

to the OP - the more I think about it, just stick with the 2 fermenters - its how I did it for years before I could ferment all in one.  You can try other yeasts out, and in cases where you're using the same yeast, why not just blend the two fermentors into the kegs or bottle bucket?
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2011, 10:40:49 AM »
Blatz - you must be a big guy to lift a full conical. 

yeah, I'm bigger than the average bear, but one of my other hobbies is staying in shape - lots of deadlifting, cleans, etc. so perhaps I take lifting the conical into the fridge for granted.

in my upcoming brewhouse build, I will be pumping across the room into the conical already inside the fridge, so I won't have to worry about that anymore.

to the OP - the more I think about it, just stick with the 2 fermenters - its how I did it for years before I could ferment all in one.  You can try other yeasts out, and in cases where you're using the same yeast, why not just blend the two fermentors into the kegs or bottle bucket?

Yeah, the last Weizen I made I used two yeasts and then blended them together to keg.  I think I got that idea from here somewhere.
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Re: Bigger fermenter? - but I have no pump!
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2011, 11:43:20 AM »
I guess, for now, I'll stick w/ splitting each batch into 2 carboys, like I have been.  Like I said, I guess I'm just looking to the future. 
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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2011, 11:47:33 AM »
Blatz - you must be a big guy to lift a full conical.  
yeah, I'm bigger than the average bear, but one of my other hobbies is staying in shape - lots of deadlifting, cleans, etc. so perhaps I take lifting the conical into the fridge for granted.

I am in fairly good shape, but at my age I am not going to risk a hurt back.
Lifting wort is what the March pump is for, among other tasks.
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