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Offline oscarvan

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Doctor I have this friend.....
« on: April 12, 2011, 05:18:29 PM »
No really....

He brewed a Czech Pilsner, extract style. I wasn't here for this. Two weeks later there is a layer of white "stuff" with green spots on top of the beer in his bucket...... Me, I'm not optimistic about this....

Any thoughts?

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Re: Doctor I have this friend.....
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2011, 05:54:01 PM »
Oscar that is mold. There's no way that could have grown in two weeks unless it was cultivated and given oxygen.

Toss it.  :(
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Re: Doctor I have this friend.....
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2011, 05:56:34 PM »
Was going to say it looks like mold. But bluesman beat me to it. How long to have it grow? Two weeks is a long time.
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Re: Doctor I have this friend.....
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2011, 06:00:57 PM »
EEEEWWWWWWW :o :o :o :o
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Re: Doctor I have this friend.....
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2011, 06:01:48 PM »
EEEEWWWWWWW :o :o :o :o

That's what I told him....... Oh well.
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Re: Doctor I have this friend.....
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2011, 06:27:53 PM »
Mold.

But taste it before you dump it.  It's the best way to learn from your mistakes. ;) ;D
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Re: Doctor I have this friend.....
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2011, 06:33:36 PM »
Did he catch a cold while brewing and wait on pitching his yeast?  ;D
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Re: Doctor I have this friend.....
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2011, 06:56:36 PM »
But taste it before you dump it.  It's the best way to learn from your mistakes. ;) ;D

That's like rubbing the dogs nose in his "mistake".
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Re: Doctor I have this friend.....
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2011, 07:04:17 PM »
OK, so now that we have established what I already thought......

How does one "get" mold? I need to tell him something he can learn from.... The only thing I can think of is that he has the thing parked in a closet in the (slightly damp) basement, which may well have a lot of these critters flying around in it.....but how they got in the bucket I don't know, unless he opened it and they jumped in..... will have to ask.

(Never had this problem myself, yet....)
« Last Edit: April 12, 2011, 07:07:31 PM by oscarvan »
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Re: Doctor I have this friend.....
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2011, 07:12:41 PM »
Mold is everywhere. Relative Humidity levels are the main consideration. If he ferments in a wet humid basement there will be more mold than a dry basement. Does he have a mold problem? My bet is that he has a significant problem so mold remediation will be necessary.

The focus of your recommendation should be: beyond the mold problem

rule#1 - "clean and sanitize" everything that touches the wort after boiling
rule#2 -  refer to rule #1
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Re: Doctor I have this friend.....
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2011, 08:00:19 PM »
New beer category proposal:

Antibiotic beer!
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Re: Doctor I have this friend.....
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2011, 08:21:33 PM »
Mold.

But taste it before you dump it.  It's the best way to learn from your mistakes. ;) ;D

Like rubbing the cats nose it it when he pees in the house
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Re: Doctor I have this friend.....
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2011, 08:22:59 PM »
Mold.

But taste it before you dump it.  It's the best way to learn from your mistakes. ;) ;D

Like rubbing the cats nose it it when he pees in the house

I shoulda read all the posts - tygo beat me to it...
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Re: Doctor I have this friend.....
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2011, 09:39:34 PM »
Mold.

But taste it before you dump it.  It's the best way to learn from your mistakes. ;) ;D

Like rubbing the cats nose it it when he pees in the house

I shoulda read all the posts - tygo beat me to it...
Yeah, but it doesn't work with the animals. :)

The main thing though is to get a good strong dose of the flavor, which can help identify it at lower levels if he runs into an odd taste that isn't quite so visible in the fermenter.
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Re: Doctor I have this friend.....
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2011, 05:58:45 AM »
Anyone know how well Starsan works on mold?  I ask because I keep a couple of gallons of mixed Starsan solution in a bucket and also have a couple gallons of mixed PBW in another bucket (identical cheapo Home Depot buckets).  The lid for the Starsan bucket occasionally develops a few mold spots but the PBW bucket doesn't, or at least doesn't to the degree the Starsan bucket does.  And the PBW is often put in the bucket when still warm so there is often heavy condensation on that lid, not so for the Starsan bucket.  As a result, I switch buckets/solutions when I make a new Starsan solution.

Plus we have a picture of mold growing on beer which should be in the ~4.5 pH range, so that level of acidity seems to be no problem.

Also, I was just doing some reading on it and while I can't comment on the validity of this article, they say bleach does NOT kill mold.