[ccarlson]

I'd like to see gas hit about $8so we can get cars with decent mileage over here.  When I'm in Europe I can rent a Ford Fiesta diesel that gets over 45 miles per gallon but Ford won't sell it here.
Full disclosure:  I work in oil/gas exploration and have a company car so I don't actually buy gas, but my wife and kids do,

What makes you think $8 gas would get you higher gas mileage cars? I've been to Europe several times and I wouldn't buy any of their cars here, if given the choice.

[beersk]

Good thing an election is coming up, gas prices are supposed to drop... to around $3.50 per gallon.  Wohoooo!  Yippeeeeee!     Are we sheep or what?!      

I need about tree fiddy...

Gas is up to $3.99 here.  The reason I wish gas would go up and up and up is so people start thinking about whether they need to drive somewhere or not, say to the store to get a gallon of milk.  Maybe, just MAYBE they'll think, "Hey, I can walk or ride my bike to the store!  It's free, it's fun, and I get some exercise." 
The thing I don't like about rising gas prices is that our imported food in turn gets more expensive.  But I'm willing to pay a little more for food if people get off their asses and realize their sedentary lifestyle is *gasp* BAD for them.

[phillamb168]

I'd like to see gas hit about $8so we can get cars with decent mileage over here.  When I'm in Europe I can rent a Ford Fiesta diesel that gets over 45 miles per gallon but Ford won't sell it here.
Full disclosure:  I work in oil/gas exploration and have a company car so I don't actually buy gas, but my wife and kids do,

What makes you think $8 gas would get you higher gas mileage cars? I've been to Europe several times and I wouldn't buy any of their cars here, if given the choice.

First for Corky, a lot of the times that's measured in imperial gallons which is not the same as Us gallons. The power plant is almost always exactly the same, also the EU regulations concerning estimation of MPG are different as well. Second ccarlson see above   The car you buy in Europe is the same car you buy in the US.

[punatic]

Good thing an election is coming up, gas prices are supposed to drop... to around $3.50 per gallon.  Wohoooo!  Yippeeeeee!     Are we sheep or what?!      

I need about tree fiddy...

Gas is up to $3.99 here.  The reason I wish gas would go up and up and up is so people start thinking about whether they need to drive somewhere or not, say to the store to get a gallon of milk.  Maybe, just MAYBE they'll think, "Hey, I can walk or ride my bike to the store!  It's free, it's fun, and I get some exercise." 
The thing I don't like about rising gas prices is that our imported food in turn gets more expensive.  But I'm willing to pay a little more for food if people get off their asses and realize their sedentary lifestyle is *gasp* BAD for them.

I just got back from a 12 and a half mile ride on my bike.  This sedentary lifestyle is fun!  

Now I'm going to drive 220 miles to Kona and back.  I don't care how much gas costs.  It's just another business expense.  If my clients want me in Kona they pay for me to go there.

The price of gas is irrelevant.  The availability of gas is the issue we should be thinking about..

[ccarlson]

I'd like to see gas hit about $8so we can get cars with decent mileage over here.  When I'm in Europe I can rent a Ford Fiesta diesel that gets over 45 miles per gallon but Ford won't sell it here.
Full disclosure:  I work in oil/gas exploration and have a company car so I don't actually buy gas, but my wife and kids do,

What makes you think $8 gas would get you higher gas mileage cars? I've been to Europe several times and I wouldn't buy any of their cars here, if given the choice.

First for Corky, a lot of the times that's measured in imperial gallons which is not the same as Us gallons. The power plant is almost always exactly the same, also the EU regulations concerning estimation of MPG are different as well. Second ccarlson see above   The car you buy in Europe is the same car you buy in the US.

I wasn't really referring to the Ford, but some of the other ones. I rented an Opal one time. As far as I'm concerned they can keep those in Europe. Edit: Sorry, that got stuck in the wrong place.

[phillamb168]

Good thing an election is coming up, gas prices are supposed to drop... to around $3.50 per gallon.  Wohoooo!  Yippeeeeee!     Are we sheep or what?!      

I need about tree fiddy...

Gas is up to $3.99 here.  The reason I wish gas would go up and up and up is so people start thinking about whether they need to drive somewhere or not, say to the store to get a gallon of milk.  Maybe, just MAYBE they'll think, "Hey, I can walk or ride my bike to the store!  It's free, it's fun, and I get some exercise." 
The thing I don't like about rising gas prices is that our imported food in turn gets more expensive.  But I'm willing to pay a little more for food if people get off their asses and realize their sedentary lifestyle is *gasp* BAD for them.

I just got back from a 12 and a half mile ride on my bike.  This sedentary lifestyle is fun!  

Now I'm going to drive 220 miles to Kona and back.  I don't care how much gas costs.  It's just another business expense.  If my clients want me in Kona they pay for me to go there.

The price of gas is irrelevant.  The availability of gas is the issue we should be thinking about..

You guys should be pretty much set I'd think, what with geothermal and all.

[corkybstewart]

I'd like to see gas hit about $8so we can get cars with decent mileage over here.  When I'm in Europe I can rent a Ford Fiesta diesel that gets over 45 miles per gallon but Ford won't sell it here.
Full disclosure:  I work in oil/gas exploration and have a company car so I don't actually buy gas, but my wife and kids do,

What makes you think $8 gas would get you higher gas mileage cars? I've been to Europe several times and I wouldn't buy any of their cars here, if given the choice.

I've never seen a diesel Ford Fiesta for sale over here.  And when we're in Europe we tend to drive thousands of kilometers in our rental car.  On the german autobahn the mileage sucks but that's normal at 160kph. Off the autobahn I got around 15-18 kilometers per liter of diesel.
If the price of gas got really obscene people would alter their driving habits, you'd see a lot more natural gas powered cars and more mass transit.  W
First for Corky, a lot of the times that's measured in imperial gallons which is not the same as Us gallons. The power plant is almost always exactly the same, also the EU regulations concerning estimation of MPG are different as well. Second ccarlson see above   The car you buy in Europe is the same car you buy in the US.

[punatic]

The price of gas is irrelevant.  The availability of gas is the issue we should be thinking about..

You guys should be pretty much set I'd think, what with geothermal and all.

Geothermal provides for about 30% of our electric demand on Hawaii Island.  There could be a lot more but the C.A.V.E. People get in the way at every turn.

[pinnah]

Paid $4.03/gallon for diesel today.
$100 bucks to fill er up.

Drove 150 miles up the road into ONG Land
(Oil and Gas Land)
where trucks buzz around like flies and the rate there was $ 4.43/gallon.


I am impressed by the prices in Europe.  'Mericans sure are spoiled it seems,
and complain a lot.

Gawd dang I love my truck.

[phillamb168]

The price of gas is irrelevant.  The availability of gas is the issue we should be thinking about..

You guys should be pretty much set I'd think, what with geothermal and all.

Geothermal provides for about 30% of our electric demand on Hawaii Island.  There could be a lot more but the C.A.V.E. People get in the way at every turn.

Is that like C.H.U.D.?

[punatic]

The price of gas is irrelevant.  The availability of gas is the issue we should be thinking about..

You guys should be pretty much set I'd think, what with geothermal and all.

Geothermal provides for about 30% of our electric demand on Hawaii Island.  There could be a lot more but the C.A.V.E. People get in the way at every turn.

Is that like C.H.U.D.?

Naw, there haven't been any cannibals here for many months now.

[1vertical]

Availability of gasoline would not be a problem if there
were a refinery near you.  We have a couple small ones here.
But the "not in my backyarders" have cinched that venue up so
IF availability goes away I place my blame squarely upon that.

[dean]

+1 on not enough refineries here in the states, along with opening up more land for drilling.

Hmmmm... interesting read, explains CAVE People and NIMBY People.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAVE_People

I guess I'm a YIMBY person...     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YIMBY

[punatic]

Gas prices dropped another 12₵/gal here today.

$4.44 → $4.32

That's down 27₵/gal in the last four days.  I'm getting whiplash!

[corkybstewart]

Availability of gasoline would not be a problem if there
were a refinery near you.  We have a couple small ones here.
But the "not in my backyarders" have cinched that venue up so
IF availability goes away I place my blame squarely upon that.

We have a fairly large refinery about 35 miles from here, and we are surrounded by producing oil and gas fields(google Permian Basin of NM and TX) and our gas is more expensive than most areas around us.  So standard cost analysis doesn't work with gasoline-we have the raw materials and the infrastructure to turn them into usable fuels, and very low shipping costs but we have to pay more than people in cities 200 miles away(the refinery nearby has a pipeline to Albuquerque where gas is usually 10 cents cheaper than here)