[narvin]

I didn't reach anywhere near the 168F Mash out, I could only get to 158 with the remaining water.

Mash out won't make much of a difference anyway unless you're doing a really long sparge.  But, I told you so 

It's great that you went through with it to get the experience and to have two different versions to compare.  Let us know how they turn out.

[dano14041]

But, I told you so 

It's great that you went through with it to get the experience and to have two different versions to compare.  Let us know how they turn out.

I was waiting for one of those. 

I will post back when they are both ready and a few people have tasted them.