[timberati]

My LHBS doesn't carry Simcoe hops. When a recipe calls for Simcoe at 0 minutes what would be a decent substitute? I was thinking of using Columbus.

[majorvices]

Certainly nothing wrong with columbus, one of my favorite hops. But there is not real sub for simcoe.

[bluesman]

Certainly nothing wrong with columbus, one of my favorite hops. But there is not real sub for simcoe.

+1

http://www.hopunion.com/hopunion-variety-databook.pdf

[hoser]

Certainly nothing wrong with columbus, one of my favorite hops. But there is not real sub for simcoe.

+2

Maybe Galaxy if you can get it from Austrailia, but be prepared to pay on arm and a leg for it.  I did find some Simcoe from the craftbrewer.au website years ago during the first hop shortage, but as above, very expensive!

[SpanishCastleAle]

IMO, a good substitue for Simcoe would be cat pee.

If I'm subbing for Simcoe I use something like Cascade/Centennial and consider it an improvement (I just don't like Simcoe).  Summit might be a decent sub but I haven't used it yet.  I have ~10 oz whole leaf Simcoe I doubt I'll ever use because I dislike it so.

[tschmidlin]

Let me PM you my address . . .

I'm sure you can find someone locally to take them off your hands, Simcoe is a great flavor/aroma hop.

[SpanishCastleAle]

Let me PM you my address . . .

I'm sure you can find someone locally to take them off your hands, Simcoe is a great flavor/aroma hop.

Ha!  The guy that brews at Shipyard Emporium (Ron Raike) said he would do a swap but I just haven't made it over there...and I do need some English hops.   Lots of folks love them but I just can't get past the cat.

[timberati]

So Citra might be a decent substitute? I've heard it resembles cat urine to some people.

[majorvices]

no. they are nothing alike. simcoe is piney and citra is mango fruit tea. love simcoe. not crazy about citra.

[blatz]

its true, nothing is quite like the original simcoe.

I think Chinook, while not a true sub, would work well though - you don't get the tropical fruitiness, but the pine is very similar.

I might be buying a lot of Chinook at next harvest, expecting that I won't be able to buy Simcoe 

[majorvices]

This kinda got me thinking .... maybe .... maybe you could sub in something like 70% chinook and %30 citra and get something kinda similar. Would be worth a shot, assuming you can get Citra. Kinda hard to find no as well.

[blatz]

This kinda got me thinking .... maybe .... maybe you could sub in something like 70% chinook and %30 citra and get something kinda similar. Would be worth a shot, assuming you can get Citra. Kinda hard to find no as well.

wow.  after I posted that, i started thinking Chinook + Citra might do the trick since you get the pine from the former and tropical from the latter. 

great minds drink alike...

[timberati]

Hey. It's definitely worth a shot. Thanks!

[majorvices]

This kinda got me thinking .... maybe .... maybe you could sub in something like 70% chinook and %30 citra and get something kinda similar. Would be worth a shot, assuming you can get Citra. Kinda hard to find no as well.

wow.  after I posted that, i started thinking Chinook + Citra might do the trick since you get the pine from the former and tropical from the latter. 

great minds drink alike...

Just glad I beat you to the post!  I may have to try it sometime to see how close you can get.

[pinnah]

This kinda got me thinking .... maybe .... maybe you could sub in something like 70% chinook and %30 citra and get something kinda similar. Would be worth a shot, assuming you can get Citra. Kinda hard to find no as well.

wow.  after I posted that, i started thinking Chinook + Citra might do the trick since you get the pine from the former and tropical from the latter. 

great minds drink alike...

Just glad I beat you to the post!  I may have to try it sometime to see how close you can get.

Keith, did you ever try this combo to try and get at Simcoe?