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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2012, 10:32:19 pm »
  After reading some descriptions of hop, I found that the New Zealand High Alpha hop is a fair substitute for Simco.  I have gotten a lot of positive feed back from some of my customers.  Give it a try.
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2012, 02:41:36 pm »
Simcoe is a high oil hop (2-2.5 mls/100g).
For a sub, I would look for another high oil hop.   It will not make the same beer, but I think that is your best bet to get close.

Yeah, both Citra and Chinook have a different character, but because they're other high oil hops, I'd go in that direction.
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2012, 09:15:20 am »
Quote from: hoser on March 22, 2012, 08:02:01 am
I have heard of a blend of 3 parts Columbus, 2 parts Centennial, and 1 part Chinook may get you reasonably close.  But, I have not tried it.

I gave the Weyerbacher Double Simcoe another try last night after there was some discussion on another thread here about it. I really picked up a lot of similarity with Columbus. There was a lot of dankness. I think the combo with Columbus, Centennial and Chinook makes a lot of sense to me. I think Columbus will get you close with Centennial for some citrus and Chinook for the pine.
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2012, 09:50:36 am »
Quote from: erockrph on May 17, 2012, 09:15:20 am
Quote from: hoser on March 22, 2012, 08:02:01 am
I have heard of a blend of 3 parts Columbus, 2 parts Centennial, and 1 part Chinook may get you reasonably close.  But, I have not tried it.

I gave the Weyerbacher Double Simcoe another try last night after there was some discussion on another thread here about it. I really picked up a lot of similarity with Columbus. There was a lot of dankness. I think the combo with Columbus, Centennial and Chinook makes a lot of sense to me. I think Columbus will get you close with Centennial for some citrus and Chinook for the pine.

I agree. You need a blend to get it remotely close. The pine is what sets it apart and what you never will quite nail without the actual hop.
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2012, 10:24:59 am »
I just kegged a DIPA with a blend of Columbus, Cenntenial, Simcoe and Amarillo hops.  I have to say that this might be my all-time favorite blend of hops.  :)
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2012, 10:30:23 am »
Quote from: bluesman on May 17, 2012, 10:24:59 am
I just kegged a DIPA with a blend of Columbus, Cenntenial, Simcoe and Amarillo hops.  I have to say that this might be my all-time favorite blend of hops.  :)

That's what I used to use in my IPA at YH.  :(
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2012, 10:41:16 am »
Quote from: majorvices on May 17, 2012, 10:30:23 am
Quote from: bluesman on May 17, 2012, 10:24:59 am
I just kegged a DIPA with a blend of Columbus, Cenntenial, Simcoe and Amarillo hops.  I have to say that this might be my all-time favorite blend of hops.  :)

That's what I used to use in my IPA at YH.  :(

That's what I used for the Belgian IPA I'm taking to NHC, along with some Chinook and homegrown Cascades.
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2012, 10:50:40 am »
Quote from: majorvices on May 17, 2012, 10:30:23 am
Quote from: bluesman on May 17, 2012, 10:24:59 am
I just kegged a DIPA with a blend of Columbus, Cenntenial, Simcoe and Amarillo hops.  I have to say that this might be my all-time favorite blend of hops.  :)

That's what I used to use in my IPA at YH.  :(

Maybe (hopefully) things will change for you next year.  Which hop is hard for you to get...Simcoe?
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2012, 10:51:07 am »
Quote from: denny on May 17, 2012, 10:41:16 am
Quote from: majorvices on May 17, 2012, 10:30:23 am
Quote from: bluesman on May 17, 2012, 10:24:59 am
I just kegged a DIPA with a blend of Columbus, Cenntenial, Simcoe and Amarillo hops.  I have to say that this might be my all-time favorite blend of hops.  :)

That's what I used to use in my IPA at YH.  :(

That's what I used for the Belgian IPA I'm taking to NHC, along with some Chinook and homegrown Cascades.

Can't wait to try that one too Denny.  :)
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2012, 12:02:30 pm »
Quote from: bluesman on May 17, 2012, 10:24:59 am
I just kegged a DIPA with a blend of Columbus, Cenntenial, Simcoe and Amarillo hops.  I have to say that this might be my all-time favorite blend of hops.  :)


The four hops used in Pliny the Elder......
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2012, 12:47:50 pm »
Quote from: repo on May 17, 2012, 12:02:30 pm
Quote from: bluesman on May 17, 2012, 10:24:59 am
I just kegged a DIPA with a blend of Columbus, Cenntenial, Simcoe and Amarillo hops.  I have to say that this might be my all-time favorite blend of hops.  :)


The four hops used in Pliny the Elder......

Almost...but Pliny doesn't have Amarillo.
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2012, 02:15:13 pm »
Quote from: bluesman on May 17, 2012, 12:47:50 pm
Quote from: repo on May 17, 2012, 12:02:30 pm
Quote from: bluesman on May 17, 2012, 10:24:59 am
I just kegged a DIPA with a blend of Columbus, Cenntenial, Simcoe and Amarillo hops.  I have to say that this might be my all-time favorite blend of hops.  :)


The four hops used in Pliny the Elder......

Almost...but Pliny doesn't have Amarillo.

From what I heard Vinnie is now using Amarillo actually...but maybe thats changed as well?
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2012, 02:25:42 pm »
Quote from: jmcamerlengo on May 17, 2012, 02:15:13 pm
Quote from: bluesman on May 17, 2012, 12:47:50 pm
Quote from: repo on May 17, 2012, 12:02:30 pm
Quote from: bluesman on May 17, 2012, 10:24:59 am
I just kegged a DIPA with a blend of Columbus, Cenntenial, Simcoe and Amarillo hops.  I have to say that this might be my all-time favorite blend of hops.  :)


The four hops used in Pliny the Elder......

Almost...but Pliny doesn't have Amarillo.

From what I heard Vinnie is now using Amarillo actually...but maybe thats changed as well?

We'll have to get to the bottom of this... :)
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2012, 02:29:48 pm »
Yes he is using amarillo
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2012, 02:31:21 pm »
Vinnie has said he is using Amarillo now in Pliny. Web site says so too.
https://store-54e42.mybigcommerce.com/brews/pliny-the-elder/

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