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Simcoe substitutes
« on: May 17, 2011, 07:41:05 AM »
My LHBS doesn't carry Simcoe hops. When a recipe calls for Simcoe at 0 minutes what would be a decent substitute? I was thinking of using Columbus.
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2011, 07:44:55 AM »
Certainly nothing wrong with columbus, one of my favorite hops. But there is not real sub for simcoe.
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2011, 07:46:33 AM »
Certainly nothing wrong with columbus, one of my favorite hops. But there is not real sub for simcoe.

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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2011, 07:51:20 AM »
Certainly nothing wrong with columbus, one of my favorite hops. But there is not real sub for simcoe.

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Maybe Galaxy if you can get it from Austrailia, but be prepared to pay on arm and a leg for it.  I did find some Simcoe from the craftbrewer.au website years ago during the first hop shortage, but as above, very expensive!

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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2011, 09:16:25 AM »
IMO, a good substitue for Simcoe would be cat pee. ;)

If I'm subbing for Simcoe I use something like Cascade/Centennial and consider it an improvement (I just don't like Simcoe).  Summit might be a decent sub but I haven't used it yet.  I have ~10 oz whole leaf Simcoe I doubt I'll ever use because I dislike it so.

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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2011, 09:37:34 AM »
Let me PM you my address . . .

I'm sure you can find someone locally to take them off your hands, Simcoe is a great flavor/aroma hop.
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2011, 10:19:03 AM »
Let me PM you my address . . .

I'm sure you can find someone locally to take them off your hands, Simcoe is a great flavor/aroma hop.
Ha!  The guy that brews at Shipyard Emporium (Ron Raike) said he would do a swap but I just haven't made it over there...and I do need some English hops.   Lots of folks love them but I just can't get past the cat.

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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2011, 11:41:29 AM »
So Citra might be a decent substitute? I've heard it resembles cat urine to some people.
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2011, 11:46:08 AM »
no. they are nothing alike. simcoe is piney and citra is mango fruit tea. love simcoe. not crazy about citra.
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2011, 11:58:03 AM »
its true, nothing is quite like the original simcoe.

I think Chinook, while not a true sub, would work well though - you don't get the tropical fruitiness, but the pine is very similar.

I might be buying a lot of Chinook at next harvest, expecting that I won't be able to buy Simcoe  :'(
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2011, 12:52:22 PM »
This kinda got me thinking .... maybe .... maybe you could sub in something like 70% chinook and %30 citra and get something kinda similar. Would be worth a shot, assuming you can get Citra. Kinda hard to find no as well.
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2011, 01:03:17 PM »
This kinda got me thinking .... maybe .... maybe you could sub in something like 70% chinook and %30 citra and get something kinda similar. Would be worth a shot, assuming you can get Citra. Kinda hard to find no as well.

wow.  after I posted that, i started thinking Chinook + Citra might do the trick since you get the pine from the former and tropical from the latter. 

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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2011, 01:11:46 PM »
Hey. It's definitely worth a shot. Thanks!
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2011, 01:48:34 PM »
This kinda got me thinking .... maybe .... maybe you could sub in something like 70% chinook and %30 citra and get something kinda similar. Would be worth a shot, assuming you can get Citra. Kinda hard to find no as well.

wow.  after I posted that, i started thinking Chinook + Citra might do the trick since you get the pine from the former and tropical from the latter. 

great minds drink alike...

Just glad I beat you to the post!  :P I may have to try it sometime to see how close you can get.
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Re: Simcoe substitutes
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2012, 02:09:37 PM »
This kinda got me thinking .... maybe .... maybe you could sub in something like 70% chinook and %30 citra and get something kinda similar. Would be worth a shot, assuming you can get Citra. Kinda hard to find no as well.

wow.  after I posted that, i started thinking Chinook + Citra might do the trick since you get the pine from the former and tropical from the latter. 

great minds drink alike...

Just glad I beat you to the post!  :P I may have to try it sometime to see how close you can get.


Keith, did you ever try this combo to try and get at Simcoe?