[noopy51]

I started thinking about mead and the process of turning honey, water and yeast into a delicious alcoholic beverage. Then a thought crossed my mind. If you could turn what's basically sugary honey water into alcohol, couldn't you do the same thing, but instead of using honey, you used real maple syrup? I see many similarities with honey and maple, and I know maple syrup is used in brewing all the time, so I don't think I'm too far out in left field. I was wondering if any of you have thought about this, or maybe even tried brewing a batch of 'maple mead' on their own!

-Tom K

[theDarkSide]

Acerglyn.

Here's a place in NH that uses Maple Syrup, although I don't think the use 100% syrup and no honey.

http://www.saphousemeadery.com/Themeadery.php

[morticaixavier]

Have not made it. have wanted to for quite a while. expensive. More expensive than honey, Organic honey can be had for about 3-5 bucks a pound and good maple syrup runs more like 10-12. and you need more of it. but if you are so inclined and do it, send me a bottle.

I have read that it has a very nice sherry like character.

[thomasbarnes]

I started thinking about mead and the process of turning honey, water and yeast into a delicious alcoholic beverage. Then a thought crossed my mind. If you could turn what's basically sugary honey water into alcohol, couldn't you do the same thing, but instead of using honey, you used real maple syrup?

A guy in our local HB club taps his own maple trees and uses the sap as brewing liquor for what he calls a "maple wine." It's quite good, but it's not a true mead. I keep telling him to throw a cup or so of honey into it so he can enter it in competition as a specialty mead.

I've brewed with maple sugar a few times, but only to make beer. The maple character is relatively delicate, so you're better off using lower grade maple syrup (paradoxically, Grade B maple syrup has more maple flavor and aroma than the "better" stuff). I've never done it, but I'd imagine that you could get nice maple notes if you used it as a priming sugar.

Unless you're tapping your own trees, given the expense of maple syrup, I'd do a mead using mostly neutral-flavored honey, then "feed" the fermentation with maple syrup so that the maple dominates flavor and aroma.

Finally, only use pure maple sugar. Artificial maple sugar has a base of corn syrup, which produces "cidery" notes when fermented. Artificial maple flavorings tend to be one-dimensional. If you want to create "maple-like" flavors and aromas, add fenugreek seeds instead - they're used to make artificial maple.

[morticaixavier]

I have a BW in bottles for about a month now that was brewed with about 2 lbs of maple syrup and bottle primed with another 6 or so ounces (not enough by the way). There is a VERY subtle maple character, however like with honey, alot of what we think about as maple flavour is so closely associated with the sweetness than when the sweetness is removed by fermentation it's hard to pin down the 'maple' or 'honey' as the same thing you taste on your waffles.

and +1 on the 'lower' grade syrup. Lowest grade, darkest amber you can find. The grading system arose when maple was used as a sugar substitute and those using it didnt' want that backwoods flavour in their cakes.

[roxanne]

I have brewed with 100% maple syrup.  I did a starting gravity of about 1.110 (similar to a standard mead).  Maple syrup is less concentrated than honey - so 1 gallon of maple syrup makes about 3 gallons of fermented maple (similar to 1 gallon honey making 4 gallons of mead at the same gravity).  The fermentation finished at about 1.015.

It was a very intereting product - fairly bland for the first 6 months or so.  Then it went into an odd phase for a while (some described it as 'soy-like').  After about 2 years it reached the sherry like stage, with noticeable maple notes.  Make sure to use grade B maple syrup.

It can't be entered (yet) - but I have been thinking it's time for an "alternate fermentables" category.  I've also played with 100% agave nectar (as have others), 100% date palm sugar (odd aroma, but it dissipates in about 5 minutes to a great taste), brown rice syrup (don't bother), and hope to do a few others.  I start with 1 gallon batches with these 100% fermentations to see what they are like.  It's a great way to learn about the flavors that a different sugar will impart to beer or mead - and you create some interesting products on their own.

[mycholatez]

I am using Natural Sugar Free Maple Syrup and it is 100% sugar free and gives the sweetness like honey. I loose weight around 5 kg and also effective for the  diabetic people.ugar level.

[JEFFSTEELE]

Had the same idea last year so now I have a 3 gallon batch going.  I think it is about time to bottle it.  Sounds like I better plan on aging it for a while.

[erockrph]

Wow...Zombie thread

I made a batch of "maple wine" years ago, back when "Grade B" was still a thing. It came out ok, but a bit flabby/cloying. I really wish I had added some acid back to it prior to bottling. That was definitely an expensive batch.

[Drewch]

This thread is almost ten years old... I wonder if we can keep it going until May...

Re: acerglyn.  Did you do mead-style staggered nutrients?

Re: alternative fermentables.  I've wondered about trying to get a hold of some fresh sugar cane juice.  Sort of an un-distilled rum.

[erockrph]

This thread is almost ten years old... I wonder if we can keep it going until May...

Re: acerglyn.  Did you do mead-style staggered nutrients?

Re: alternative fermentables.  I've wondered about trying to get a hold of some fresh sugar cane juice.  Sort of an un-distilled rum.

I used 71B and followed my usual SNA process. It started at 1.150 and finished down at 1.050. It ended up pretty sweet, but it was a nice sipper. I need to check and see if I have any bottles left in the beer cellar...

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[Drewch]

This thread is almost ten years old... I wonder if we can keep it going until May...

Re: acerglyn.  Did you do mead-style staggered nutrients?

Re: alternative fermentables.  I've wondered about trying to get a hold of some fresh sugar cane juice.  Sort of an un-distilled rum.

I used 71B and followed my usual SNA process. It started at 1.150 and finished down at 1.050. It ended up pretty sweet, but it was a nice sipper. I need to check and see if I have any bottles left in the beer cellar...

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Interesting. We love maple; I'll have to add it to the to-brew list.

These guys have cane juice with just citric acid added. Would def. need SNA.

https://www.sugarcaneisl.com/shop/cane-juice-6-pack

I've tried cane syrup (Steen's) as an adjunct before, but it added an unpleasant "whang" to the beer.  It may have been an interaction with the POF+ yeast, but I think it came mostly from the Steen's.

[Dan Schreffler]

Our meadery makes both an acer and and an acerglyn.  Pretty much we treat the maple wines as we do any of our meads (nutrient addition), but with more deliberate acid additions for taste. 

We have also experiment with harvesting our own maple sap and just boiling to get to the desired starting gravity and fermenting that.  We found you do not get the stronger "maple syrup" notes vs rehydrating syrup. We like our local maple syrup farm, so we rather they do what they do best and we simply buy their syrup. :-)

[Drewch]

...  Pretty much we treat the maple wines as we do any of our meads (nutrient addition), but with more deliberate acid additions for taste. 

At the risk of giving away your trade secrets, can you elaborate? How do you figure when and how much to add?

....We like our local maple syrup farm, so we rather they do what they do best and we simply buy their syrup. :-)

One of the things I've had to come to terms with over the years is the fact that I can't be an expert everything.

[Dan Schreffler]

...  Pretty much we treat the maple wines as we do any of our meads (nutrient addition), but with more deliberate acid additions for taste. 

At the risk of giving away your trade secrets, can you elaborate? How do you figure when and how much to add?

....We like our local maple syrup farm, so we rather they do what they do best and we simply buy their syrup. :-)

One of the things I've had to come to terms with over the years is the fact that I can't be an expert everything.

Sorry for late reply.  We use TOSNA nutrient calculations for our honey /maple wines. When nearing desired FG, we measure pH.  Then try to achieve under 4.0pH as the initial target.  Measure pH, taste, add some acid, stir, measure pH, taste repeat.  We found that the higher the FG, the more acid needed to balance the sweetness to add complexity and keep it from being syrup wine.