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Newfangled bottle necks
« on: June 08, 2011, 01:26:11 PM »
Has anyone tried their hand capper on the newer style bottles?
That is...There are a lot of new bottles out there that have a very short collar, beneath the lip...
It seems to me that many hand-held cappers may run into some trouble sealing them.

To make a comparison, around at some of the bottles your local liquor store has & compar the necks.
Some look like this:


Others, like this:
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Re: Newfangled bottle necks
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2011, 02:02:11 PM »
Maybe put a coin on top of the cap or get a bench capper?
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Re: Newfangled bottle necks
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2011, 02:03:52 PM »
The "new" bottles always shattered using my clam shell capper.  The glass was too thin.

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Re: Newfangled bottle necks
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2011, 02:58:09 PM »
Maybe put a coin on top of the cap or get a bench capper?

I'm not complaining, or even saying that there is a problem...
I'm just curious as to whether anyone noticed any issues.
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Re: Newfangled bottle necks
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2011, 06:24:17 PM »
I haven't had any bottling issues lately but I'm not sure I've even used the new design yet. I'll keep a lookout for them.
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Re: Newfangled bottle necks
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2011, 07:23:18 PM »
I did notice that there is an amber bottle Carlsberg I think, that the lip was
insufficient to fully crimp the crown on the bottle. It was not as dark as the
local brown bottles, just a tad lighter.  After one bad bottle, I pulled
the rest out. At that time I had enough of others to accomodate the change
in the lineup...
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Re: Newfangled bottle necks
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2011, 07:44:51 PM »
I did notice that there is an amber bottle Carlsberg I think, that the lip was
insufficient to fully crimp the crown on the bottle. It was not as dark as the
local brown bottles, just a tad lighter.  After one bad bottle, I pulled
the rest out. At that time I had enough of others to accomodate the change
in the lineup...

Did the same with any Bass bottles I had
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Re: Newfangled bottle necks
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2011, 08:16:43 PM »
Are these bottles the way of the future?  Hope not.
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Re: Newfangled bottle necks
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2011, 08:37:21 PM »
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Are these bottles the way of the future?  Hope not.

I consider bottle type and label peeling when buying.  Drake's uses a light glue that's perfect (and their beers are spot on excellent), kinda looking for something like that for custom labels, but the favorite are those 24oz Sierra Nevada bottles - anywhere to get those by the case?

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Re: Newfangled bottle necks
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2011, 11:26:39 PM »
I just successfully and easily capped a new-fangled style bottle with my wing-capper. I compared an old bottle to the different new one. The industry will save millions in glass over the next years.



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Re: Newfangled bottle necks
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2011, 11:27:59 PM »
And shipping too I imagine.  Or the carriers will save on gas at least.
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Re: Newfangled bottle necks
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2011, 12:18:37 AM »
I find that I can cap with a wing capper on the new style, but the capper needs to be dead level and you have to go easy on the pressure applied or the seal can be a bit off.

As mentioned, with a bench capper there are no issues.
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Re: Newfangled bottle necks
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2011, 07:30:41 AM »
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Are these bottles the way of the future?  Hope not.

I consider bottle type and label peeling when buying.  Drake's uses a light glue that's perfect (and their beers are spot on excellent), kinda looking for something like that for custom labels, but the favorite are those 24oz Sierra Nevada bottles - anywhere to get those by the case?


I just bought 3 cases of SN Southern Hemisphere Harvest in 24oz bottles at Island Naturals in Pahoa.  Man I really like that beer!  Those bottles are destined to hold mead when emptied. 

I use a bench capper.  One I received for Christmas from my boss in 1990.  I like it cause it's like a bullet press for reloading, and it works great on all crown cap finished bottles.
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Re: Newfangled bottle necks
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2011, 07:09:30 AM »
those lips are not really all that new, I think anchor has had them for years.

 A black beauty capper has no trouble.
The red capper can't handle 'em.

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Re: Newfangled bottle necks
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2011, 10:10:02 AM »
those lips are not really all that new, I think anchor has had them for years.

 A black beauty capper has no trouble.
The red capper can't handle 'em.


I used a red one...
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