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Hops Direct announced this years crop
« on: June 16, 2011, 06:02:37 PM »
Coming up this fall for the market.  I saw a new
variety I was unfamiliar with anyone shed some info on this hop?

SaraBrianka..... ???
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Re: Hops Direct announced this years crop
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2011, 08:14:21 PM »
Really? I dated her in high school!
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Re: Hops Direct announced this years crop
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2011, 12:36:01 AM »
OH man! I still got a freezer full from years ago. Been furiously brewing through that 2 pounds of Zeus I bought. That I didn't like. At first. ::)

Of course I will be placing an order when the time is right! Thanks! Czech Saaz for the barrage Czech Pils I plan to make. And some low alpha varieties.

And what's is with the SaraBrianka? Google search reveals little.
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Re: Hops Direct announced this years crop
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2011, 06:28:26 AM »
That is why I posted this Euge...exactly why...
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Re: Hops Direct announced this years crop
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2011, 06:56:11 AM »
I saw that too. I think someone is having a little fun with the emails.
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Re: Hops Direct announced this years crop
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2011, 05:14:46 PM »
Looking through the new Hopunion Hop Variety Handbook, I see that the father of Cascade was Serebrianka.

SarahBrianka might be another offspring?
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Re: Hops Direct announced this years crop
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2011, 05:55:33 PM »
Looking through the new Hopunion Hop Variety Handbook, I see that the father of Cascade was Serebrianka.

SarahBrianka might be another offspring?
Interesting perhaps the result of deplorable spelling or typing??
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Re: Hops Direct announced this years crop
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2011, 03:04:41 PM »
Serebrianka is a Russian hop, which is reputed as the father of Cascade. Cascade was released in 1972, in the early stages of detente between the Soviet Union and the USA. Whether the splicing relates to this is anyone's guess.

Serebrianka as a name  indicates the growing region (like Hallertauer), in Kursk Oblast in Southern Russia. Incidentally the name translates into Russian as 'silvery', or 'smooth-tongue'.

I actually have some of these in my freezer, bought in Russia.

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Re: Hops Direct announced this years crop
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2011, 03:21:02 PM »
Serebrianka is a Russian hop, which is reputed as the father of Cascade. Cascade was released in 1972, in the early stages of detente between the Soviet Union and the USA. Whether the splicing relates to this is anyone's guess.

Serebrianka as a name  indicates the growing region (like Hallertauer), in Kursk Oblast in Southern Russia. Incidentally the name translates into Russian as 'silvery', or 'smooth-tongue'.

I actually have some of these in my freezer, bought in Russia.


Many humble thanks.  I wonder if you would mind sharing your 1st hand knowledge of these...like their flavor
profile and approximate AA %.....???
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Re: Hops Direct announced this years crop
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2011, 06:07:34 PM »
Serebrianka is a Russian hop, which is reputed as the father of Cascade. Cascade was released in 1972, in the early stages of detente between the Soviet Union and the USA. Whether the splicing relates to this is anyone's guess.

Serebrianka as a name  indicates the growing region (like Hallertauer), in Kursk Oblast in Southern Russia. Incidentally the name translates into Russian as 'silvery', or 'smooth-tongue'.

I actually have some of these in my freezer, bought in Russia.


Many humble thanks.  I wonder if you would mind sharing your 1st hand knowledge of these...like their flavor
profile and approximate AA %.....???
Fascinating.
Also thanks for the info.
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Re: Hops Direct announced this years crop
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2011, 01:02:48 AM »
Some details that might be helpful.

The package in my freezer says that the AA is 5.7%.

The flavour profile - slightly floral, with a touch of citrus (I get lemon). Very clean aroma.

I asked a Russian brewer friend last night about these - he told me that the Russian's consider them to be a noble variety (along with several other indigenous hops) and they are seen as dual purpose hops. Their usage in brewing was much higher prior to the end of WW2, when Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe led to many brewries to move towards using Saaz. He claimed that Stepan Razin Martovskoye  (St Petersburg) still uses Serebrianka.

I'm actually toying with the idea of writing a history of Soviet beer and brewing. While we know about Russian Imperial Stout and Baltic Porters, there's nothing much on post-1917. Time, and what I can find in Russian archives would be the major factor in this project (and finding a publisher).
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Re: Hops Direct announced this years crop
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2011, 10:27:28 AM »
I mentioned this to Dave Wills of Freshops last night and he was dumbstruck that Sarabrianka was available.  He said that Cascade came from a cross of that Fuggle, and something else he couldn't recall at the moment.  Hey, we were at the Awards Banquet and there was some beer involved....
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Re: Hops Direct announced this years crop
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2011, 11:24:57 AM »
I mentioned this to Dave Wills of Freshops last night and he was dumbstruck that Sarabrianka was available.  He said that Cascade came from a cross of that Fuggle, and something else he couldn't recall at the moment.  Hey, we were at the Awards Banquet and there was some beer involved....

Supposedly a cross of Serebrianka, Fuggle and a Fuggle derivative....
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Re: Hops Direct announced this years crop
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2011, 06:46:26 PM »
I'm actually toying with the idea of writing a history of Soviet beer and brewing. While we know about Russian Imperial Stout and Baltic Porters, there's nothing much on post-1917. Time, and what I can find in Russian archives would be the major factor in this project (and finding a publisher).

It sounds like a story worth telling. You might pitch a magazine for an article first, then you could get paid to do the research. The magazine would depend on how you pitch the article.
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Re: Hops Direct announced this years crop
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2011, 11:49:39 PM »
I'm actually toying with the idea of writing a history of Soviet beer and brewing. While we know about Russian Imperial Stout and Baltic Porters, there's nothing much on post-1917. Time, and what I can find in Russian archives would be the major factor in this project (and finding a publisher).

It sounds like a story worth telling. You might pitch a magazine for an article first, then you could get paid to do the research. The magazine would depend on how you pitch the article.

I hadn't thought about being paid to do the research, more that I would get a modest advance on a book. I'm a university professor in Russian History, so actually research these sorts of things for a living. Of course, most of my writing has been rather academic in nature, but I think this might have a broader appeal. While I know how to work the academic publishers, I've never played with the others...But, I think I'm going to write a proposal.
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