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Best Malz lot analysis?
« on: December 28, 2009, 11:25:58 am »
Anybody know where I can get a lot analysis for Best Malz?  Specifically their pils malt?
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Re: Best Malz lot analysis?
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2009, 12:03:24 pm »
I always got if from the seller. North Country Malt in my case.

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Re: Best Malz lot analysis?
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2009, 12:11:22 pm »
Thanks, Kai.  I picked this up from Brew Bros. in PDX.  I'll see if they know.  Do you happen to recall the extract potential that yours had?  I got insane efficiency this weekend with it, and I'm wondering if I underestimated the extract.
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Re: Best Malz lot analysis?
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2009, 12:21:06 pm »
82.5 Denny but that was from this past Spring

I have the PDF if you want it
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Re: Best Malz lot analysis?
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2009, 12:24:04 pm »
82.5 Denny but that was from this past Spring

I have the PDF if you want it

Thanks, that's good enough.  Still trying to figure out how I got 97% mash efficiency and 93% into the fermenter!
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Re: Best Malz lot analysis?
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2009, 12:26:40 pm »
maybe you measured wrong.  ;)

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Re: Best Malz lot analysis?
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2009, 12:27:34 pm »
82.5 Denny but that was from this past Spring

I have the PDF if you want it

Thanks, that's good enough.  Still trying to figure out how I got 97% mash efficiency and 93% into the fermenter!

I usually see a bump with it was well but have attributed that to decoction/step mashing that I use when making German beers.
That looks like more than a bump though  ;D
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Re: Best Malz lot analysis?
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2009, 12:48:23 pm »
Single infusion for me, and it's about 10 pts. higher than is normal for me.
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Re: Best Malz lot analysis?
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2009, 12:58:14 pm »
Denny, you should not see a jump of 10% from 87% to 97%. Especially when you batch sparge with only one sparge and when you brew breers as strong as your sig suggests. There is a limit to what you can get with batch sparging and that is about 85-87%.

Contributing all the 10% to the malt is also difficult since the variances you would see in malt's extract potential might up to 3% but not more than that.

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Re: Best Malz lot analysis?
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2009, 03:00:22 pm »
I agree with you Kai, but I'm not sure what else to attribute it to.  I was shooting for an OG of 1.052.  I used 17 lb. of Best pils malt (nothing else) and got 11.3 gal. of 1.052 pre boil.  I boiled down to just over 9 gal. and ended up at 1.060.
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Re: Best Malz lot analysis?
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2009, 03:51:26 pm »
http://www.bestmalz.de/en/malt/malt-type-pilsner-malt.htm
Not a lot but from their website.

I agree with pretty much everyone here.  10% almost has to be a measurement error.  but with a good consisyent brewer this is not common.
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Re: Best Malz lot analysis?
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2009, 05:19:13 pm »
Dang.  I was just about to post the same question.  I got Best Pils, Wheat & some Caramel from North Country but no lot analysis.  I emailed them but nothing yet.  Maybe I'll try again tomorrow.

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Re: Best Malz lot analysis?
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2009, 06:36:22 pm »
You still have some of this malt left. See what you get with future mashes. Maybe keep track if mash thickness and first wort gravity as well. You could always try a test mash to test the malt potential extract. But that might be taking it too far.

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Re: Best Malz lot analysis?
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2009, 10:03:27 am »
You still have some of this malt left. See what you get with future mashes. Maybe keep track if mash thickness and first wort gravity as well. You could always try a test mash to test the malt potential extract. But that might be taking it too far.

Kai

Yeah, I just used 17 lb. out of a new 55 lb. bag, so there's lots left.  I always track the SG of both the first runoff and the total volume into the kettle.  FWIW, I recall that my mash thickness this time around was 1.53 qt./lb.  I used 6.5 gal. for the mash and IIRC 6.25 gal. for the sparge.  And Fred, I agree that measurement error was the first thing to cross my mind, so I double checked all my measurements.  It will be interesting in future uses of this grain to see what happens.
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Re: Best Malz lot analysis?
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2009, 10:29:53 am »
what was the gravity of the first runnings?

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