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Substitute for Maris Otter extract
« on: July 01, 2011, 04:21:14 PM »
A brewing buddy of mine recently moved and was only able to tale along enough brewing gear to be able to do extract brews.  He wants to make his favorite AG brown recipe as an extract batch, but it called for Maris Otter malt.  There no longer seems to be a supplier of Maris Otter extract, so is there a brand of extract that gets close or perhaps something he can do to doctor an extract batch to mimic one made with MO?
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Re: Substitute for Maris Otter extract
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2011, 04:27:42 PM »
I'm not really Mr. Extract, but do you still have English-origin pale extracts available?  I would go with one of those first.  If not, then use a domestic pale extract.  You might steep 2 oz of Biscuit malt along with your specialty grains to get some of the flavor.  It won't be the same, but it might be more in the ball park.  In a brown beer, the darker malts are going to be carrying the flavor more anyway.  If it's an English brown recipe, you might see if you can get some brown malt and steep some of that (2-4 oz, maybe).
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Re: Substitute for Maris Otter extract
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2011, 06:01:28 AM »
Thanks, Gordon.  Good sugggestions.  I'll pass those along.
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Re: Substitute for Maris Otter extract
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2011, 05:14:16 AM »
Try a mini mash with a lb or so of victory. That's what a lot of breweries use to mimic MO.
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Re: Substitute for Maris Otter extract
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2011, 06:11:57 PM »
Interesting, thanks.  I don't know if he's got any equipment for a mini-mash, but at 1 lb I'm sure he could just use kitchen utensils and cobble something together.
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Re: Substitute for Maris Otter extract
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2011, 08:13:08 AM »
Biscuit and Victory have similar flavors; I sub them for each other all the time.
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Re: Substitute for Maris Otter extract
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2011, 07:30:52 PM »
Yeah, I saw this, but I'm not convinced that it's Marris Otter (but it may be close enough).

Gordon - thanks for the additional tip.
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Re: Substitute for Maris Otter extract
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2011, 10:47:10 AM »
Interesting, thanks.  I don't know if he's got any equipment for a mini-mash, but at 1 lb I'm sure he could just use kitchen utensils and cobble something together.

If you have a stock pot and a kitchen colander you can mini mash. ;)

Agree, Biscuit and Victory are very close.
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Re: Substitute for Maris Otter extract
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2011, 05:29:43 PM »
Indeed, that's how I make starters (well, I use a vegetable steamer)...
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