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Safbrew T58 will turn good for a witbier?
« on: July 02, 2011, 09:31:21 AM »
Im planning tomorrow make my first Witbier, i used dry yeast but i dont know if SFT58 it a good choice considering that propertie of spicy and high ester flavor. i dont want overpowering this flavor

maybe 50% white wheat , 40% pale malt,riche hulls and maybe some oats
coriander, orange peel
has anywone tried this one? or pick S06?

thanks!
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Re: Safbrew T58 will turn good for a witbier?
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2011, 10:57:27 AM »
Yeah, that's a pretty good yeast for a wit.
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Re: Safbrew T58 will turn good for a witbier?
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2011, 03:33:43 PM »
I've heard de Struise uses T-58 as their house strain. This is according to someone from the brewery:
http://www.thebrewingnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=8801&sid=bb85ae98136fd5687e0152c32f3cc313

I've also heard it compared to 3787. It definitely makes a good wit, but I've never tried something like a dubbel with it, or a wit with 3787, so I can't say how they compare directly in the same style.
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Re: Safbrew T58 will turn good for a witbier?
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2011, 08:51:15 AM »
3787 seems like a strange choice for a wit.  At any rate, it and T-58 are nothing alike.
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Re: Safbrew T58 will turn good for a witbier?
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2011, 10:33:50 AM »
I thought T-58 was kind of bland when it was used on my first wheat beer years ago. I didn't get the pepper or esters, but then again I think it was fermented too warm.
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Re: Safbrew T58 will turn good for a witbier?
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2011, 01:22:35 PM »
I thought T-58 was kind of bland when it was used on my first wheat beer years ago. I didn't get the pepper or esters, but then again I think it was fermented too warm.

Same for me, but also underattenuated.  I used it for a Belgian Strong Golden Ale and I doubt I'll be using it again.
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Re: Safbrew T58 will turn good for a witbier?
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2011, 06:03:30 PM »
It does make a damn good apple cider.
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Re: Safbrew T58 will turn good for a witbier?
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2011, 06:22:42 PM »
3787 seems like a strange choice for a wit.  At any rate, it and T-58 are nothing alike.

I think 3787 would probably taste good in a wit recipe, thought probably not exactly to style. It would probably taste more like a German wheat. It has some nice phenols. I taste a lot of spiciness (clove) with that strain.

I think it's interesting that so many people sub 3787 for T-58 when cloning de Struise beers. Maybe 3787 just makes better BDSs than T-58.
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Re: Safbrew T58 will turn good for a witbier?
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2011, 10:08:53 PM »
well guys, im brewing right now and im adding some dried orange peel, fresh orange peel, coriander, chamomille, and......maybe some crush pepper  for the last minutes of boiling with the T58.

i hope works a nice and tasty refreshing Wit

cheers , and HAPPY fourth of July to all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Safbrew T58 will turn good for a witbier?
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2011, 08:49:02 AM »
Yeah, that's a pretty good yeast for a wit.

I agree. For Belgian Wit's & T58 I usually start it out @ 65F (beer temp) for the first couple of days & then let it rise up to 68F. Really never had an attenuation problem. Last Wit went from 1.058 to 1.008. ~85% Apparent Attenuation. If anything, maybe a little too much. Cheers!!!
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Re: Safbrew T58 will turn good for a witbier?
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2011, 10:13:42 AM »
Yeah, that's a pretty good yeast for a wit.

I agree. For Belgian Wit's & T58 I usually start it out @ 65F (beer temp) for the first couple of days & then let it rise up to 68F. Really never had an attenuation problem. Last Wit went from 1.058 to 1.008. ~85% Apparent Attenuation. If anything, maybe a little too much. Cheers!!!

is good to know that, y make my Witbier yesterday...
ill wait for the results,
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Re: Safbrew T58 will turn good for a witbier?
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2011, 03:40:05 PM »
I've used T-58 for a half dozen batches and have always been very happy with it.  I've not picked up on any peppery notes with it, but it always seems to hit my FG targets.  It would be solid for a wit, no question.

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Re: Safbrew T58 will turn good for a witbier?
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2011, 07:34:19 PM »
It does make a damn good apple cider.

+1 to that. I have one batch made with S-04, another with T-58 going right now. Just transferred to secondary, and the T-58 batch tastes amazing already. Nicely dry, just tart enough, and a little bit spicy. The S-04 is sweeter and much more appley.
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Re: Safbrew T58 will turn good for a witbier?
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2011, 09:55:56 AM »
I think T-58 could do a decent Wit, I'd be concerned with it under attenuation though.  While I read that it could be an under-attenuator, I tried to counter that by recently throwing it at my standard Saison grist and mash schedule (mashed high 140's, cane sugar in the boil, and higher ferment temps - 76-78f), and it still only finished at 1.015.  Distinctly Belgian esters, but lots of pear, honey, and melon character - much more like a Tripel than a Saison, though faint peppery notes emerge as the beer warms.  Main complaint is the heavy mouthfeel for what should be a crisp style.  Good flavor\aroma though, I'll use it again.


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Re: Safbrew T58 will turn good for a witbier?
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2011, 11:28:49 AM »
Although it's been a while, I've made several batches of wit with T-58 and I don't ever recall it under attenuating.
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