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My New Toy
« on: July 17, 2011, 01:20:41 PM »
Don't you just leave experimenting?



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Re: My New Toy
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2011, 01:25:57 PM »
What's the rest of the story?
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Re: My New Toy
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2011, 07:01:30 AM »
Whats with the duct tape?






New Toy?  

Seriously, my first thought was you were going all Weazy
and were going to post up a pic of your new 4X4 for jeepin season.



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Re: My New Toy
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2011, 08:10:33 AM »
What's the rest of the story?

Not much really. I'm changing our house yeast strain, which is what passes for exciting in the commercial brewing world. When the culture got here I did a bit of a double-take at its size.

Whats with the duct tape?

The walk-in/bright room stays pretty humid and I haven't found anything else that will keep the linoleum attached to the wall. If there was a gap I'd worry about condensation rolling down and collecting under the floor, and I don't even want to THINK about what would be involved in getting down there to clean it.
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Re: My New Toy
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2011, 08:31:32 AM »
What's the rest of the story?

Not much really. I'm changing our house yeast strain, which is what passes for exciting in the commercial brewing world. When the culture got here I did a bit of a double-take at its size.

Ah...I could see it was yeast, but didn't know the story.  Changing from what to what?
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Re: My New Toy
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2011, 08:37:53 AM »
Going from US-05 (:P) to Wyeast 1318 (;D).
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Re: My New Toy
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2011, 08:44:07 AM »
Going from US-05 (:P) to Wyeast 1318 (;D).

Wow, that's a switch!  1318 is one of the few British yeasts that I like.  That speaks to my tastes, not the quality of the yeast.
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Re: My New Toy
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 08:58:19 AM »
I was always on the fence about US-05 as a home brewer, but in a commercial setting it's absolutely worthless. I have three main criteria for a house yeast:

1. Fermentability can be controlled with mash temperature.
2. Flavor can be controlled with fermentation temperature.
3. Easily harvested and repitched.

US-05 satisfies exactly none of those.
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Re: My New Toy
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2011, 09:37:58 AM »
FWIW, a couple of the breweries/brewpubs around here are fans of 1968.  I know that's what Ninkasi uses, even though they make no English style beers.
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Re: My New Toy
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2011, 09:46:40 AM »
I switched from WLP001 to US-05 for my IPA a few months ago and am ready to switch back. It is convenient to use but I can see why you have issues with it, sean. I just now started using WY1007 for my Alt and am going to try a few IPAs with it on the side to see how I like it.
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Re: My New Toy
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2011, 09:56:52 AM »
FWIW, a couple of the breweries/brewpubs around here are fans of 1968.  I know that's what Ninkasi uses, even though they make no English style beers.

That was actually my first thought, since it's what I use for English styles at home, but I wasn't sure I could get the attenuation I need for certain styles (IIPA on deck as a fall seasonal). From my limited experience with it, 1318 seems to give a similar overall flavor, but with the potential for higher attenuation.

It is convenient to use but I can see why you have issues with it, sean.

It's definitely convenient. The biggest problem I've had is that we have a mix of conicals and Grundies, and harvesting from a dish bottom with it just isn't possible. There were several times I couldn't even get enough in a 5 gal Corny to pitch the next batch, and that's after a week of cold crashing.

I'll be interested to hear how the 1007 works out for your IPA. Seems like it could be a good choice for preserving a little malt character, even with a low FG.
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Re: My New Toy
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2011, 10:41:25 AM »
IME, a big difference between 1968 and 1318.  And I haven't had much luck with 1318 clearing, not that I expect it to clear like 1968 but I mean just not wanting to clear at all.  I also get a stone fruit flavor (like peaches) with 1318 that I didn't like until I brewed an APA with it, somehow it worked with that but I didn't like it in English styles.  But this was only two different smack packs of 1318 plus a few washed-yeast batches from each, I've used 1968 way more.  Big Sky brewery uses 1968 as their house strain.

Regarding S-05, some people (me for one) have such different results from S-05 vs. Wyeast 1056 that we, for all practical purposes, consider them different yeasts (i.e. I won't even use S-05).  Don't think I've ever used White WLP001.  I really need to try 1272, heard good things about it as an 'upgrade' from 1056.

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Re: My New Toy
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2011, 10:50:09 AM »
IME, a big difference between 1968 and 1318.  And I haven't had much luck with 1318 clearing, not that I expect it to clear like 1968 but I mean just not wanting to clear at all.

Interesting. I only brewed three test batches with 1318, but had pretty much the opposite experience. I guess I'll know a whole lot about it in a few weeks.

I really need to try 1272, heard good things about it as an 'upgrade' from 1056.

Definitely do; it's my all-around favorite ale yeast.
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Re: My New Toy
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2011, 11:57:39 AM »
Yeast as a new toy.  I guess I am a little slow here. :-[

So is the Icepick the first to go?  I was pretty excited to hear AIPA is your favorite style.
Any plans to head north for a few sacks of fresh hops in August, or is a wethopped sesonal too much of a PITA.




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Re: My New Toy
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2011, 12:06:53 PM »
Interesting. I only brewed three test batches with 1318, but had pretty much the opposite experience. I guess I'll know a whole lot about it in a few weeks.
I expected it to be very flocculant because their website says so but I just didn't have that experience, but I don't find S-05 to flocculate that well either.  So relative to S-05 it might be more flocculant but I don't consider that 'highly flocculant'.  Maybe it was something else...like using some 'hazy' Maris Otter or something (I was making mostly ESBs and Ord Bitters with it).