I gave it a shot yesterday, and was satisfied that I'm on it, right or wrong, only time will tell. A good tame style to start with, Schwarzbier. I did the bittering via calculation, and limited it to 45 minutes. The finishing I had planned an ounce at 20 minutes, then another ounce at 10. My finishing hops were homegrown Fuggles, not quite to style, but they deserved some use, last year's crop and still fresh and wonderfully aromatic. So, I did my 20 minute addition, but when it got to 10, after tasting of course, I decided to knock it back to 1/2 ounce, and play it by ear at 5 minutes. When 5 minutes came, I thought nope, this doesn't need anything more, it's done. So it worked, I think. Now, the trick will be 3 months from now, and will I think it should have had a little extra. Anyway, I like it. It had an impact. Thanks for the insight.