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Best way to find Brewmaster for startup brewpub
« on: January 22, 2018, 10:02:35 PM »
I am currently thinking about getting in the nano brewpub business in central PA.  I have absolutely no experience in brewing. I do however have over 25yrs managing retail stores that do over $80 million a year. I am looking for a Brewmaster to partner with. I plan on providing the cash needed for startup and the Brewmaster provide the knowledge and experience needed to make this succeed. As I am used to working 60+ hours a week , putting in long hours for me will not be an issue. Could use some ideas on what to look for in a qualified candidate.

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Re: Best way to find Brewmaster for startup brewpub
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2018, 10:20:03 PM »
Do you really mean "nano"?  Using the conventional definition of a nano brewery, there is almost no money to be made.
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Re: Best way to find Brewmaster for startup brewpub
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2018, 10:24:36 PM »
I think I would go big. I would not buy a job. I would start 30bbl or larger, and recruit a known lead brewer from a known award winning brewery.

Basing this on my home brewing experience, lol. I have a pickup load of stuff from when I started to when I hit cruising speed. Financially, I should have started where I am, rather than waste 6 years and probably $500 on useless garage sale fodder. So, if I were of the mind to start a commercial brewery, I'd start at profit making level.
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Re: Best way to find Brewmaster for startup brewpub
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2018, 03:00:01 AM »
Do you really mean "nano"?  Using the conventional definition of a nano brewery, there is almost no money to be made.

I was thinking a 3bbl system brewing 4 days a week. I know that is not get rich production, but I am not getting rich working for someone else. My thinking is if I am going to work as many hours as I do why not do it for myself. I really do enjoy working on the food side of the retail business, so I do not think it to much of a stretch to think I would enjoy running a brewpub. I know there is a lot of the business side I am not aware of when it comes to expenses(why I am researching still), but when you say "no money"  could you put a gross $ figure instead for the size of brewpub I am describing. "One man's trash is another man's treasure".

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Re: Best way to find Brewmaster for startup brewpub
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2018, 03:12:46 AM »
In my neighborhood, 7bbl is a break even starting point. "Buying a job".

Location, customer type, competition, all plays into it. There's no one size fits all answer. A 3bbl mom n pop could do great in a super high traffic touristy spot with year round traffic and no competition.

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Re: Best way to find Brewmaster for startup brewpub
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2018, 03:14:09 AM »
I own and operate a brewery that has been in existence for over 7 years and is in three states and unless your 3 bbl system is inside a brew pub (serving food) you will not make enough money to make the endeavor worth your time. If you are starting the brewery as a concept to get investors or larger bank loans that might work but understand that you may need to work a  few years without paying yourself much if anything. Make sure you are in a position to take that risk.

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Re: Best way to find Brewmaster for startup brewpub
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2018, 05:38:54 AM »
I hope I don't seem argumentive, I appreciate everyone that replies. It has given me more to think about and research. The location I am looking at is in a town that has a population of 78,000 within a five mile radius with a median income of $74,000. The street it's on has a daily traffic of 18,000 cars. Was really wanting to start on the small size so I could learn about the brewing process. But sounds like a 3bbl plan won't get it done. I really didn't want to sell off premises, but if I go any bigger there is no way to sell that much beer without doing so. 

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Re: Best way to find Brewmaster for startup brewpub
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2018, 07:29:58 AM »
3bbl will get you just shy of 3k pints per week at four batches. Figuring 2 pints per adult you’d have enough for about 200 people per day. Might not be enough. You may be able to pour other breweries beers as well.