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Timothy Taylor Landlord Best Bitter
« on: August 18, 2011, 07:30:37 AM »
Dang - this is one nice propper pint!
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Re: Timothy Taylor Landlord Best Bitter
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2011, 09:02:04 AM »
Where did you get that?
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Re: Timothy Taylor Landlord Best Bitter
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2011, 01:50:12 AM »
On cask in an English pub.  Will say more later.
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Re: Timothy Taylor Landlord Best Bitter
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2011, 05:14:44 AM »
On cask in an English pub.  Will say more later.
That's the only way I've ever had it, too.  I remember the pub, but I can't remember exactly where it was.  That trip was ten years ago.
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Re: Timothy Taylor Landlord Best Bitter
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2011, 06:52:18 AM »
On cask in an English pub.  Will say more later.
That's the only way I've ever had it, too.  I remember the pub, but I can't remember exactly where it was.  That trip was ten years ago.
I remember my last pint of Landlord quite vividly. The pub was The Barrels in Berwick-upon-Tweed. As we were walking in, a local was coming out. He told us "You've made the right decision". Indeed. Landlord on cask is one of the best beers I've ever had.
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Re: Timothy Taylor Landlord Best Bitter
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2011, 10:35:56 AM »
Back on the ground in the US with better connections. 
TTL was just abou
t my favorite of the whole trip.  Had 3 pints.

The small UK brewers are making some excellent beer, and hop flavor and aroma are more than I remember.  More advertise American hops.  Many of the bitters were very light in color, almost Cream Ale light ~ and some were Pils light.

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Re: Timothy Taylor Landlord Best Bitter
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2011, 06:19:24 AM »
I think I make a respectable TTL clone, but I really don't know how close it is because I've never actually had the good fortune of encountering a pint of the stuff. I've heard rumors of people finding a cask of it here and there in the states, but I've never been successful at finding any stateside.

Can you provide any tasting notes, Jeff?
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Re: Timothy Taylor Landlord Best Bitter
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2011, 06:31:19 AM »
Was not in note taking mode.  I have made some TTL knockoffs from internet recipes and what I have read.

From memory.  It was darker than I had imagined, probably from a little more crystal malt.  More SO4 in the nose - "Burton Snatch" as Jeff Renner terms it.

Hop aroma was there, but medium low level.  Hop bitterness was higher than my knockoffs.  Might be from the SO4, or I might need to kick up the bitterness a notch.

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Re: Timothy Taylor Landlord Best Bitter
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2011, 07:18:54 AM »
Will see if my picture skills are working. _ No


You need to use the link to just the picture, not the web page...

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Re: Timothy Taylor Landlord Best Bitter
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2011, 08:45:11 AM »
Thanks, that was what I was trying to do, but did not realize what the problem was.

Edit - You learn something every day!
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Re: Timothy Taylor Landlord Best Bitter
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2011, 02:44:52 PM »
The picture above was at the Royal Oak in Brighton.  Newly refurbished pub.  Good place.

This one is in the Doric Arch near Euston station.  A Fullerrs pub with guest taps.

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Re: Timothy Taylor Landlord Best Bitter
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2011, 10:53:53 AM »
This can be one of the most consitently good pints in this country as long as it has had time to sit on the stillage.  If it is served to soon it has separate flavours. Time is one to be savoured with this one.
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Re: Timothy Taylor Landlord Best Bitter
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2011, 12:19:31 PM »
Interesting that you mention "separate flavors."  One of the thing I find with the best versions of English ales is that they present a single, unified taste to the drinker.  Which isn't to say that you can't taste the malt/hops/yeast character seperately... but they come together in a way that gives you a single taste of the beer.  A lot of the more extreme styles of craft beer don't really have this harmony.  I think it comes from balance-- not just in terms of intensity, but also in terms of harmonious flavors.  EKGs and Marris Otter and a bit of diacetyl and so forth just makes for a nice combo. 

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Re: Timothy Taylor Landlord Best Bitter
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2011, 12:25:12 PM »
Interesting that you mention "separate flavors."  One of the thing I find with the best versions of English ales is that they present a single, unified taste to the drinker.  Which isn't to say that you can't taste the malt/hops/yeast character seperately... but they come together in a way that gives you a single taste of the beer.  A lot of the more extreme styles of craft beer don't really have this harmony.  I think it comes from balance-- not just in terms of intensity, but also in terms of harmonious flavors.  EKGs and Marris Otter and a bit of diacetyl and so forth just makes for a nice combo. 

Landlord is said to use Styrian Goldings (Fuggles grown in Slovenia) and Golden Promise malt.  It is still on fine pint.
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Re: Timothy Taylor Landlord Best Bitter
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2011, 01:59:14 PM »
Of course it does.  Another great combination!