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Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
« on: August 23, 2011, 07:56:29 PM »
Well being a newbie I got to thinking about hops and recipes. Big oops on my part I need 600#  for a modest IPA. The thing is I need them this year and now. My recipe calls for the hardest to get hops, and they are all spoken for now what? I hope to get them by hook or crook but you got to think about the availability of your raw materials.

Just another thing to think about.
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Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2011, 07:58:57 PM »
juhayzus! 600 lbs? what size batch are you making!!!!!!

okay I am guessing you mean you are a newbie to the pro world.
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Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2011, 08:12:39 PM »
Only about 10 bbls at a time, this would be a second beer and looking to sell 500 bbls a year. Figuring 10% loss or excess. Depends on extract effienciecy
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Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2011, 06:46:53 AM »
Extract efficiency is much greater on large systems. On a 10bbl system you might get 2-3x the extract efficiency as you would on a homebrew scale. The only way to really know would be to brew a batch and send a sample to a lab to calculate IBU.

Supply line issues are going to be a normal issue with brewing, especially with hops, with so few being grown and so much demand, especially with the proprietary strains. If I were to make recipes, I would tailor them around well-established and non-proprietary strains, like the ones released by the USDA in Corvallis.
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Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2011, 06:48:11 AM »
Hang in there for hops. There may be a few hundred pounds that break away in November. Keep your eyes open. First come first serve.
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Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2011, 05:21:17 AM »
Geez, Marc, I didn't even know you went pro!  Congrats!!!

So where cant I get some of your brew??
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Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2011, 07:45:11 PM »
Majority is going to be flavor and aroma so no lucking out on extract effiency. I didn't want to use extracts but I guess we have accept the real world realities.

Pautucket, Hopefully next spring, maybe as close as Eau Claire at TM's place. (If he will sell it). :)  !!
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Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2011, 06:54:29 AM »
Marc,

The current law in WI does not allow me to distribute your beer. If I could I would LOVE to.

Fruit extract vs real fruit. I was just offered 200 lb of Black Current for fruit beer. Price for 1lb was $4.50.
So compare extract price and real fruit price.
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Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2011, 07:02:03 AM »
Marc,

The current law in WI does not allow me to distribute your beer. If I could I would LOVE to.

Fruit extract vs real fruit. I was just offered 200 lb of Black Current for fruit beer. Price for 1lb was $4.50.
So compare extract price and real fruit price.

Huh?

In any case, black currant beer sounds pretty good
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Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2011, 02:20:15 PM »
Can't wait to see Tangerine Dream on the shelves at my local Hy-Vee.  Damn, that's good stuff.  Good luck, buddy!
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Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2011, 02:35:56 PM »
Majority is going to be flavor and aroma so no lucking out on extract effiency. I didn't want to use extracts but I guess we have accept the real world realities.

Pautucket, Hopefully next spring, maybe as close as Eau Claire at TM's place. (If he will sell it). :)  !!

Good Luck on the new venture!  :)

I'll be on the lookout for your beer when it becomes available if I can get it.
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Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2011, 10:01:52 PM »
I hope TD will be there someday too Beersk!  Bluesy you probably have to be in the midwest to get it, If I ever get that far.
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Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2011, 02:32:29 PM »
BB about selling your beers. I know I can not do distribution of your beers in my area. New law.
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Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2011, 09:41:19 AM »
BB about selling your beers. I know I can not do distribution of your beers in my area. New law.
Ha, nice try TM.
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