[EHall]

I did this once... boiled a qt of water down to ~3/4C with about .5oz of pellets added... was going to add to a kitchen sink beer that turned out underhopped... decided to taste it... WOW! I will never do that again... It took forever to get that taste out of my mouth. horrible dreams... but after aging the beer turned out ok.

[rep]

I heard that, "tea" replaced waterboarding in Iraq a few years ago.

[narvin]

And you call yourself a hophead...

I'm wondering what the article will be like.  How many words does it take to say "DON'T  "?

[Kit B]

I heard that, "tea" replaced waterboarding in Iraq a few years ago.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
 

[denny]

And you call yourself a hophead...

I'm wondering what the article will be like.  How many words does it take to say "DON'T  "?

The article is about recipe formulation.  I was working on ways to learn the flavors of various ingredients.

[The Professor]

So, I'm doing a Zymurgy article and I thought I'd do some research on making hop teas to compare hops.  I've done this before with poor results, but I wanted to quantify things a bit.  Holy s***!  That has got to be some of the most vile, disgusting stuff to ever pass my lips!  3 hours later I can't get the harshness out of my mouth.  Do people actually make this stuff and put it in their beers?  Man, I shudder just thinking about what it tasted like.

That's how I feel about the green tea that is all the rage, these days.
--puke--

I've tried hop tea both as a beverage and as an addition to beer, and yes...lousy for both and gag inducing.  And I love hops.

But green tea pukeworthy?  ...Really??   I think you must have had green tea that was made incorrectly. 
I've been drinking since my college days in the early 70's and find that green tea is generally mellower and even a touch sweeter on the palate than black tea.  The trick is to use water just short of boiling, and dont ever steep the leaves for more than 5 minutes.    Any hotter or  longer than that and you definitely will wind up with a tannic and tongue shriveling astringent cup of yuck.

[nateo]

I'm still in the "Keep it simple, stupid!" phase in my brewing. I don't have any idea how to start bringing multiple specialty grains into the mix in any meaningful way, so I'd actually be really interested in reading that article.

I started out with (IMO) needlessly complicated recipes I got online or at the brew store. Since then, all my recipes now are "mostly-or-all-base-malt-and/or-a-touch-of-specialty/roasted."

I also usually just use one hop at a time when I'm brewing. I don't really know how or why to do different varieties at different times, or why you would pick one hop for a 15min addition and a different one for a flameout addition.

[majorvices]

So, I'm doing a Zymurgy article and I thought I'd do some research on making hop teas to compare hops.  I've done this before with poor results, but I wanted to quantify things a bit.  Holy s***!  That has got to be some of the most vile, disgusting stuff to ever pass my lips!  3 hours later I can't get the harshness out of my mouth.  Do people actually make this stuff and put it in their beers?  Man, I shudder just thinking about what it tasted like.

That's how I feel about the green tea that is all the rage, these days.
--puke--

I've tried hop tea both as a beverage and as an addition to beer, and yes...lousy for both and gag inducing.  And I love hops.

But green tea pukeworthy?  ...Really??   I think you must have had green tea that was made incorrectly. 
I've been drinking since my college days in the early 70's and find that green tea is generally mellower and even a touch sweeter on the palate than black tea.  The trick is to use water just short of boiling, and dont ever steep the leaves for more than 5 minutes.    Any hotter or  longer than that and you definitely will wind up with a tannic and tongue shriveling astringent cup of yuck.

Agree, I had no idea green tea was "all the rage". I guess I have been on the fringe on fashion for 20 years now.  Like beer or coffe, green tea is an aquired taste. Now put your juice box down for a minute and give it a try. 

[Kit B]

So, I'm doing a Zymurgy article and I thought I'd do some research on making hop teas to compare hops.  I've done this before with poor results, but I wanted to quantify things a bit.  Holy s***!  That has got to be some of the most vile, disgusting stuff to ever pass my lips!  3 hours later I can't get the harshness out of my mouth.  Do people actually make this stuff and put it in their beers?  Man, I shudder just thinking about what it tasted like.

That's how I feel about the green tea that is all the rage, these days.
--puke--

I've tried hop tea both as a beverage and as an addition to beer, and yes...lousy for both and gag inducing.  And I love hops.

But green tea pukeworthy?  ...Really??   I think you must have had green tea that was made incorrectly.  
I've been drinking since my college days in the early 70's and find that green tea is generally mellower and even a touch sweeter on the palate than black tea.  The trick is to use water just short of boiling, and dont ever steep the leaves for more than 5 minutes.    Any hotter or  longer than that and you definitely will wind up with a tannic and tongue shriveling astringent cup of yuck.

I've heard this line from every tea lover I have spoken to.
I just plain don't like green tea.
Yuck.
I also don't drink much juice...Definitely not out of a box.
Citrus teas are OK...Coffee is my preferred hot drink.
Hop tea can be very nasty...Kinda like green tea.   

[narvin]

And you call yourself a hophead...

I'm wondering what the article will be like.  How many words does it take to say "DON'T  "?

The article is about recipe formulation.  I was working on ways to learn the flavors of various ingredients.

If you just smell the tea, does it smell like the hops do in a beer?

[nateo]

Green tea tastes exactly like seaweed to me. I like seaweed, though, so I don't mind drinking green tea. I can totally see people hating it though.

[denny]

If you just smell the tea, does it smell like the hops do in a beer?

Nope, not at all.  Smelling the raw hops gives you a much better idea.

[corkybstewart]

I tried this once to "calibrate" my homegrown hops.  First I made a tea with Cascade, around 5.5 AA IIRC. then with my hops.  I figured I could compare my hops with the known sample to get an approximation of the AA's.  But the Cascade was so awful I really couldn't taste anything when I tried my own hops.

[dannyjed]

Denny, thanks for being the Guinea Pig in this experiment because I actually thought about doing this before.  Next time I'll just sniff the bag or smell the glove

[eltharyon]

I used a coffee press once on some hops, I heard you get better extraction. 

Well you know how it goes, you taste everything you put in your beer so I took a taste, Mt. Hood tea, you know the beer came out great so lets not ruin the end results with reliving that tea.