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Offline bluesman

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Re: Recipe ownership?
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2010, 11:59:38 am »
I guess it's just good gamesmanship to give credit if you have the opportunity, but there should be a complexity or something special about the brew to even think you deserve credit IMO.


You mean like brewing with "no pants".  ;D
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Re: Recipe ownership?
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2010, 12:34:06 pm »
I can see everybodies point on this, so if you make a batch of beer using someone elses recipe and it turns out tasting like a turd even if you follow it exactly, then its to their credit right?   :D 

I think all beers of any style are going to be quite similar in general with some exceptions but the brewer, techniques, procedures and water chemistry deserve equal if not more credit.  So I guess I agree with Denny mostly. 

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Re: Recipe ownership?
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2010, 12:38:52 pm »
I am a little bit confused with this post.
If you do not want to share recipe then do not post it.
Other recipes get name after the "creator" like Jamil Evil Twin...

But if neighbor of mine drinks my beer he does not care what recipe I used.

Lets get back to brewing. Shall we?
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Re: Recipe ownership?
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2010, 12:43:03 pm »
If you take a recipe and brew it with your water, on your system, with your procedures, then it is a different beer.  Good form and karma to credit the inspiration.

Yes, it's a different beer, but that doesn't mean it's a different recipe.  I agree that if you make changes, it's then your recipe but you should credit the original source of the recipe you changed.

Which is why you will be happy to know that one of the beers in my fermenters is called Denny Conn's RyeIPA.  Even used 1450 this time.   ;)
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Re: Recipe ownership?
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2010, 12:44:36 pm »
FWIW, the "official" name for my Rye IPA recipe (assuming you brew my recipe without changes) is "Wry Smile IPA".
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Re: Recipe ownership?
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2010, 12:50:46 pm »
I use malt, hops, yeast, and water.  So if your doing that in your recipe, make sure you credit me ???
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Re: Recipe ownership?
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2010, 12:59:19 pm »
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Re: Recipe ownership?
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2010, 01:07:52 pm »
FWIW, the "official" name for my Rye IPA recipe (assuming you brew my recipe without changes) is "Wry Smile IPA".

I brewed one inspired by yours using Centennial for bittering and Cascades for everything else

Called it Cascades in the Rye IPA
Used the cover of the book for the label, I'll post it sometime.

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Re: Recipe ownership?
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2010, 01:08:36 pm »
FWIW, the "official" name for my Rye IPA recipe (assuming you brew my recipe without changes) is "Wry Smile IPA".

Is that a "Wry Smile" I see upon your face?  :D
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Re: Recipe ownership?
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2010, 01:09:34 pm »
I posted a little while ago in the equipment section at the bottom about quality of pots and pans, especially stainless steel and those with clad bottoms, quality of the cookware plays a large roll in how something tastes believe it or not.  Thats why sometimes you can't duplicate grandma's chili or whatever recipe you may have gotten from her even though you follow it to a tee.  Sometimes the basic ingredients are just that.

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Re: Recipe ownership?
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2010, 01:10:06 pm »
You mean like brewing with "no pants".  ;D

Reminds me of a Seinfeld episode where Kramer showers and cooks at the same time. Something just ewwww about it.
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Re: Recipe ownership?
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2010, 01:38:54 pm »
FWIW, the "official" name for my Rye IPA recipe (assuming you brew my recipe without changes) is "Wry Smile IPA".

I used Hallertau, instead of Mt. Hood.  Should be close.
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Re: Recipe ownership?
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2010, 01:47:04 pm »
I am a little bit confused with this post.
If you do not want to share recipe then do not post it.
Other recipes get name after the "creator" like Jamil Evil Twin...

But if neighbor of mine drinks my beer he does not care what recipe I used.

Lets get back to brewing. Shall we?

I don't make a big deal about it, but if asked about the recipe, I'll share where I got it or what I based it on. When I give beer away I don't say "Here's some beer, but I didn't come up with the recipe."

I don't think the question is if people use your recipe, it about giving credit to the creator.

I bet I could get away with recapping and delabeling some commercial beer and claiming as my own, but I'm not going to do that.... ;D
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Re: Recipe ownership?
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2010, 01:52:50 pm »
I bet I could get away with recapping and delabeling some commercial beer and claiming as my own, but I'm not going to do that.... ;D

But you couldn't say it was your recipe either.   ;)

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Re: Recipe ownership?
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2010, 02:12:22 pm »
I use malt, hops, yeast, and water.  So if your doing that in your recipe, make sure you credit me ???

There's no way for that to be possible because that one belongs to me.  ;D
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