[boulderbrewer]

Well being a newbie I got to thinking about hops and recipes. Big oops on my part I need 600#  for a modest IPA. The thing is I need them this year and now. My recipe calls for the hardest to get hops, and they are all spoken for now what? I hope to get them by hook or crook but you got to think about the availability of your raw materials.

Just another thing to think about.

[morticaixavier]

juhayzus! 600 lbs? what size batch are you making!!!!!!

okay I am guessing you mean you are a newbie to the pro world.

[boulderbrewer]

Only about 10 bbls at a time, this would be a second beer and looking to sell 500 bbls a year. Figuring 10% loss or excess. Depends on extract effienciecy

[nateo]

Extract efficiency is much greater on large systems. On a 10bbl system you might get 2-3x the extract efficiency as you would on a homebrew scale. The only way to really know would be to brew a batch and send a sample to a lab to calculate IBU.

Supply line issues are going to be a normal issue with brewing, especially with hops, with so few being grown and so much demand, especially with the proprietary strains. If I were to make recipes, I would tailor them around well-established and non-proprietary strains, like the ones released by the USDA in Corvallis.

[majorvices]

Hang in there for hops. There may be a few hundred pounds that break away in November. Keep your eyes open. First come first serve.

[Pawtucket Patriot]

Geez, Marc, I didn't even know you went pro!  Congrats!!!

So where cant I get some of your brew??

[boulderbrewer]

Majority is going to be flavor and aroma so no lucking out on extract effiency. I didn't want to use extracts but I guess we have accept the real world realities.

Pautucket, Hopefully next spring, maybe as close as Eau Claire at TM's place. (If he will sell it).   !!

[Thirsty_Monk]

Marc,

The current law in WI does not allow me to distribute your beer. If I could I would LOVE to.

Fruit extract vs real fruit. I was just offered 200 lb of Black Current for fruit beer. Price for 1lb was $4.50.
So compare extract price and real fruit price.

[nateo]

Marc,

The current law in WI does not allow me to distribute your beer. If I could I would LOVE to.

Fruit extract vs real fruit. I was just offered 200 lb of Black Current for fruit beer. Price for 1lb was $4.50.
So compare extract price and real fruit price.

Huh?

In any case, black currant beer sounds pretty good

[beersk]

Can't wait to see Tangerine Dream on the shelves at my local Hy-Vee.  Damn, that's good stuff.  Good luck, buddy!

[bluesman]

Majority is going to be flavor and aroma so no lucking out on extract effiency. I didn't want to use extracts but I guess we have accept the real world realities.

Pautucket, Hopefully next spring, maybe as close as Eau Claire at TM's place. (If he will sell it).   !!

Good Luck on the new venture! 

I'll be on the lookout for your beer when it becomes available if I can get it.

[boulderbrewer]

I hope TD will be there someday too Beersk!  Bluesy you probably have to be in the midwest to get it, If I ever get that far.

[Thirsty_Monk]

BB about selling your beers. I know I can not do distribution of your beers in my area. New law.

[beersk]

BB about selling your beers. I know I can not do distribution of your beers in my area. New law.

Ha, nice try TM.