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German Barleywine-Please Critque
« on: October 24, 2011, 04:38:32 PM »
Hi All,

So, I had this idea for something like a beefed-up supper alt (German Barleywine, I couldn't think of a style to fit this?). I have been wanting to use some German hops and malts for a long time, and since Winter is almost here, I thought this might taste good in January. Please look at my recipe and tell me if it is a good idea, I was planning on using WLP037 Düsseldorf Alt, but am worried about what I have read on its attenuation, will that be a problem for me. Also, I have never used any of these hops, so what can I expect from them in this recipe?


Winter is Coming--German Barleywine
Fermentable

2.5 Gallons

4lb Best Malz Pilsner
4lb Best Malz Munich
1lb German Vienna

Hops

Magnum 60 min. .5 oz 15.2AA
Opal 20 Min. .5oz  6.0AA
Perle 10 Min .5 oz 5.2AA
Saphir 5 Min. .5oz 4.0AA
.5 oz of Opal and Perle at Flameout

WLP036 Düsseldorf Alt

1.086 O.G. Assuming 70% efficiency
55IBU
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Re: German Barleywine-Please Critque
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2011, 05:01:27 PM »
It's called a Sticke Alt, not German Barleywine. But, yeah, you are getting the idea. ;) I like what you have. You might also consider dry hopping.

Spalt would be more traditional but what you have works.
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Re: German Barleywine-Please Critque
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2011, 06:23:48 PM »
It's called a Sticke Alt, not German Barleywine. But, yeah, you are getting the idea. ;) I like what you have. You might also consider dry hopping.

Spalt would be more traditional but what you have works.

Well that's good to know. For some reason I was under the impression that a Sticke Alt was much lower in gravity. Thanks.
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Re: German Barleywine-Please Critque
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2011, 11:49:09 PM »
Adambier would be another name for it.

Why only 2.5 gallons?
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Re: German Barleywine-Please Critque
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2011, 08:22:30 AM »
It's called a Sticke Alt, not German Barleywine. But, yeah, you are getting the idea. ;) I like what you have. You might also consider dry hopping.

Spalt would be more traditional but what you have works.

Well that's good to know. For some reason I was under the impression that a Sticke Alt was much lower in gravity. Thanks.

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Re: German Barleywine-Please Critque
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2011, 08:42:50 AM »
i would add a little of that magnum hops in at the end of the boil along with or instead of the saphir.  if you are shooting for some hoppy aroma.  i grow magnum and i could stuff my head in the hop bag all day. ;D

i frequent the germanbeerinstitue website often. it is a fun resource.
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Re: German Barleywine-Please Critque
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2011, 08:45:51 AM »
http://www.germanbeerinstitute.com/Doppelsticke.html

"At approximately 8.5% alcohol by volume, Doppelsticke is a super-strong ("double") Alt-style ale."

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Re: German Barleywine-Please Critque
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2011, 04:01:58 PM »
Adambier would be another name for it.

Why only 2.5 gallons?

I mostly brew only 2.5 gallon batches lately. The reason being that I love to brew, but don't drink enough to warrant doing 5 gallon batches. Also, I moved, so the people I would normally give some of the bottles too aren't around. Furthermore, I was finding that I would get a little tired of the batch by the time I got to the last bottle.
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Re: German Barleywine-Please Critque
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2011, 04:05:22 PM »
i would add a little of that magnum hops in at the end of the boil along with or instead of the saphir.  if you are shooting for some hoppy aroma.  i grow magnum and i could stuff my head in the hop bag all day. ;D

i frequent the germanbeerinstitue website often. it is a fun resource.

I believe I will take that recommendation. Thanks.
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Re: German Barleywine-Please Critque
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2011, 06:05:47 PM »
Every one's taste is different but I'm personally not a big fan of Magnum as anything but a bittering hop. It is also not a traditional flavoring or aroma hop in Germany, either. Spalter would be the traditional hop for any Alt, Sticke or DoppelSticke.
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Re: German Barleywine-Please Critque
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2011, 06:49:47 PM »
Adambier would be another name for it.

Why only 2.5 gallons?

I mostly brew only 2.5 gallon batches lately. The reason being that I love to brew, but don't drink enough to warrant doing 5 gallon batches. Also, I moved, so the people I would normally give some of the bottles too aren't around. Furthermore, I was finding that I would get a little tired of the batch by the time I got to the last bottle.

This one will have some staying power though.  You can keep it around for a couple of years and see how it matures.
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Re: German Barleywine-Please Critque
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2011, 07:03:45 PM »
Every one's taste is different but I'm personally not a big fan of Magnum as anything but a bittering hop. It is also not a traditional flavoring or aroma hop in Germany, either. Spalter would be the traditional hop for any Alt, Sticke or DoppelSticke.

I agree on both points.
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