[redzim]

So I'm currently fermenting a North German Pils (thanks for the recipe, HopfenUndMalz!) and planning a nice yeast harvest when it's done, and thought it might be time to try my first Doppelbock, which could be ready around Lent....

I'd like input on a good recipe... so far the ones I have that I would trust are the one on Kaiser's site (http://braukaiser.com/wiki/index.php?title=Imperator) and Jamil's from BCS.  Main different between the two is that Kai's is roughly 75% dark Munich, and Jamil's is about 2/3rds light Munich, with the balance of both being Pils and some caramels.   I'm leaning towards Jamil because I have plenty of light Munich on hand and won't have to lay out anything to brew this one... but if 90% of you say "it sucks... make Kai's!" then I will reconsider.

Or who has a better recipe than either of these two?

thanks
red

[majorvices]

I don't think you will find many people who will say any of JZ's recipes suck. I like to build mine around a blend of dark and light munich with a little pils (10% or so) malt for the enzymes (to ensure total conversion) and a touch of cara munich and maybe a small addition of carafa special to darken it up some.

[chezteth]

I used Jamil's recipe as a base for a smoked doppelbock.  The biggest change I made was performing a decoction mash.  It turned out very well.

[weithman5]

hard to miss. there is not much difference between those two. again plenty of munich and maybe some pils to ensure conversion esp. if using a lot of dark munich. just use enough to get your gravity where you want and use a clean lager yeast. 

[jaybeerman]

go with the grain you have and use the kai technique - just a possibility

[blatz]

again plenty of munich and maybe some pils to ensure conversion esp. if using a lot of dark munich.  

this is very important - the DP on dark munich is usually 25-30.  

I personally like a mix of lighter and darker munich rather than all light - the darker contributes a deeper malty richness as opposed to the breadier type aromas and flavors that light munich contributes.  

no matter what you do though - it will be good! I've made them all light, mostly dark and several variations in between.

[hopfenundmalz]

Red, thanks for the shout out.

Never had JZ,s recipe.  Kai had some of his at the 2010 NHC, andc it was fantastic.