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Offline tubercle

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Forward to the Past
« on: November 29, 2011, 09:24:42 pm »

 The Tubercle has been all grain brewing for 25+ years. There were about 3 extract kit brews in the begining and then to all grain. Tubercle never got to experience the apprehension of making the "leap" and going through all the styles with extract. I always figured if the Sumerians could do it, I was at least that smart.

 Lately, for some unknown reason, LME has been on the mind. Me thinks its time to give it a shot. As good as grain can be, I believe with all the experience brewing with such and knowlege gained, the extract can be taken to another level. That's how I will roll in 2012.

 Kind of like the progression in hunting; 30-'06 - hand gun - black powder long gun - black powder hand gun - bow (or bluefoxicy's sword).

 Not that I'm bored of brewing by any means, just seeing it as a challenge. It might give me better insight into some of these head-scratching post by the extract brewers.

 Hell Fire! I might even become paraniod about sanitizing.
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Re: Forward to the Past
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 09:29:34 pm »
Very cool.  Briess and Muntons are my recommendations; they ferment out nicely.  There's a lot to be said for a 3 hour brew day...

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Re: Forward to the Past
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2011, 09:33:46 pm »
Let me be the first second to respond to this post.
 
 This is not meant to be a dig or anything about extract brewing or the brother brewers who do it. It's just as I stated, I just don't have any experience in this area and want more insight of the trials and tribulations.

 I just have always done everything from scratch; brewing, cooking, preserving food, etc...just the way I was brought up.

 Thank you for the opportunity to make that clear that up before I get all busted up.
 
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Re: Forward to the Past
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2011, 06:16:56 am »
cap to flint?

Keep yer DME dry brother. ;D

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Re: Forward to the Past
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2011, 07:24:23 am »
I made some great extract brews back in the day that I would love to revisit.  Enjoy the ride!
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Re: Forward to the Past
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2011, 08:24:04 am »
Brings back memories of the early 90s. Boiling on the stove, a couple massive boilovers and that great lingering smell of malt and hops that my better half disliked. Wife was very happy when I moved out of the kitchen.

Might be fun to try again...

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Re: Forward to the Past
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2011, 09:39:05 am »
I've actually brewed several extract batches in the last year to develop/test versions of my recipes for Northern Brewer kits.  The new rye LME that Briess is making was a real eye opener....very good stuff.
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Re: Forward to the Past
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2011, 09:56:21 am »
I recently purchased some LME from Northern Brewer to supplement a 1.120 GU beer. My recommendation is to buy it from a reputable source that moves it quickly. I know that NB buys it by the 55gal drum and moves it pretty fast which is indicates fresher product.
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Re: Forward to the Past
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2011, 02:33:20 pm »
Interesting idea, Tubercle.  I did about 4 extract batches, then on to partial mash for a couple batches, then 3 gallon all grain batches (all on the stove to this point) then moved out of the kitchen to 5 gallon all grain batches for a couple years, now I'm back to 3 gallon all grain batches on the stove.  I like being inside where it's not too freakin' hot or cold, windy, buggy, muggy, dark, bright, snowy, rainy, etc.  It's made brewing so much less stressful and more about the process and relaxing.  I may have to try some extract batches again, I am going to be assisting a friend who is going to be doing his first batch in the next week or so.  So I'm trying to think of how I'm going to help since I haven't brewed extract in 3 years.  But I think I got it.
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Re: Forward to the Past
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2011, 05:35:42 pm »
I've been brewing a lot with extract lately. Tubercle there aren't any trials and tribulations with extract.

Make sure you buy fresh extract if liquid and remember that DME ferments out a bit more than LME. 

And concentrated boils give some good results and the hop utilization isn't impacted enough to not do it this way. Probably not the way to do a CAP though. That being said a full boil is how I usually do it so the IC is submerged more and I can chill it faster.

No negative connotations with using extract. After all this is homebrewing. ;D
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Re: Forward to the Past
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2011, 01:06:04 pm »
I've actually brewed several extract batches in the last year to develop/test versions of my recipes for Northern Brewer kits.  The new rye LME that Briess is making was a real eye opener....very good stuff.

I really need to try this out.  Maybe it will be under the tree :-)
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Re: Forward to the Past
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2011, 01:47:08 pm »
The Tubercle has been all grain brewing for 25+ years. There were about 3 extract kit brews in the begining and then to all grain. Tubercle never got to experience the apprehension of making the "leap" and going through all the styles with extract. I always figured if the Sumerians could do it, I was at least that smart.

Hell Fire! I might even become paraniod about sanitizing.

25 - not too shabby! cheers to that.

make sure you completely fill your kettle with sanitizer, for an hour soak - should do the trick

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Re: Forward to the Past
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2011, 08:46:28 pm »
The Tubercle has been all grain brewing for 25+ years. There were about 3 extract kit brews in the begining and then to all grain. Tubercle never got to experience the apprehension of making the "leap" and going through all the styles with extract. I always figured if the Sumerians could do it, I was at least that smart.

Hell Fire! I might even become paraniod about sanitizing.

25 - not too shabby! cheers to that.

make sure you completely fill your kettle with sanitizer, for an hour soak - should do the trick
Would that be before boil or after the boil?
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Re: Forward to the Past
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2011, 10:33:17 pm »
Hell Fire! I might even become paraniod about sanitizing.

make sure you completely fill your kettle with sanitizer, for an hour soak - should do the trick
Would that be before boil or after the boil?

Well neither for me, but if someone wants to be paranoid I suppose they could do it before and after  ;) just to be extra sure

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Re: Forward to the Past
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2011, 12:20:51 am »
Hell Fire! I might even become paraniod about sanitizing.

Fermenting for a different finished product (one we're not allowed to discuss here) has taught me much about that.  I get a lot of amusement from all of the detailed paranoid things people do to sanitize.  They'd be paranoid brewing in an OR.   :D
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