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Possible pale ale and spruce ale recipes
« on: October 22, 2012, 03:49:57 PM »
So my next two planed batches are a pale ale and "spruce" ale
here is what i'm thinking. any ideas and/or suggestions are welcome.
the first recipe is the pale ale

Shaffer Pale Ale
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Method: Extract
Style: American Pale Ale
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 5 gallons
Boil Size: 3 gallons
Efficiency: 70%
Original Gravity:
1.055
Final Gravity:
1.015
ABV (standard):
5.18%
IBU (tinseth):
37.84
SRM (morey):
7.84
Fermentables
Amount    Fermentable    PPG    °L    Bill %
6.67 lb   Liquid Malt Extract - Light   35   4   80%
Steeping Grains
Amount    Fermentable    PPG    °L    Bill %
0.5 lb   Caramel / Crystal 40L   34   40   6%
0.5 lb   Pale Ale   37   3.5   6%
0.42 lb   Carapils (Dextrine Malt)   33   1.8   5%
0.25 lb   Victory   34   28   3%
Hops
Amount    Variety    Time    AA    Type    Use
0.5 oz   Amarillo   60 min   8.6   Pellet   Boil
1 oz   Glacier   60 min   5.5   Pellet   Boil
0.25 oz   Amarillo   30 min   8.6   Pellet   Boil
0.5 oz   Glacier   20 min   5.5   Pellet   Boil
0.25 oz   Amarillo   15 min   8.6   Pellet   Boil
0.25 oz   Glacier   5 min   5.5   Leaf/Whole   Boil
1 oz   Amarillo   7 days   8.6   Pellet   Dry Hop
Hops Summary
Amount    Variety    AA    Type
2 oz   Amarillo   8.6   Pellet
0.25 oz   Glacier   5.5   Leaf/Whole
1.5 oz   Glacier   5.5   Pellet
Other Ingredients
Amount    Name    Time    Type    Use
1.67 tsp   Irish Moss   15 min   Fining   Boil
Yeast
Fermentis / Safale - Safale - American Ale Yeast US-05
Attenuation (avg):
   72%    
Flocculation:
   Medium
Optimum Temperature:
   59°F - 75°F    
Starter:
   No
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the second one is the spruce ale

Centenial Ale
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Added By: csu007
Method: Extract
Style: Holiday/Winter Special Spiced Beer
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 3 gallons
Boil Size: 3 gallons
Efficiency: 70%
Original Gravity:
1.074
Final Gravity:
1.021
ABV (standard):
7.01%
IBU (tinseth):
38.82
SRM (morey):
16.05
Fermentables
Amount    Fermentable    PPG    °L    Bill %
5 lb   Liquid Malt Extract - Light   35   4   71.4%
Steeping Grains
Amount    Fermentable    PPG    °L    Bill %
0.25 lb   Brown   32   65   3.6%
0.25 lb   Caramel / Crystal 80L   33   80   3.6%
1 lb   Victory   34   28   14.3%
0.5 lb   Biscuit   35   23   7.1%
Hops
Amount    Variety    Time    AA    Type    Use
0.25 oz   Cascade   60 min   7   Pellet   Boil
0.5 oz   Cascade   20 min   7   Pellet   Boil
0.5 oz   Mount Hood   45 min   4.8   Pellet   Boil
0.5 oz   Mount Hood   15 min   4.8   Pellet   Boil
0.25 oz   Cascade   5 min   7   Pellet   Boil
Hops Summary
Amount    Variety    AA    Type
1 oz   Cascade   7   Pellet
1 oz   Mount Hood   4.8   Pellet
Other Ingredients
Amount    Name    Time    Type    Use
2 lb   blue Spruce tips/twigs   20 min   Other   Boil
1 tsp   Irish Moss   15 min   Fining   Boil
2 each   blue spruce tips/twigs   3 min   Other   Secondary
Yeast
Fermentis / Safale - Safbrew - Specialty Ale Yeast T-58
Attenuation (avg):
   72%    
Flocculation:
   Medium
Optimum Temperature:
   59°F - 75°F    
Starter:
   No
Notes
add twigs to secondary for 3days?

not sure about spruce extract
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Re: Possible pale ale and spruce ale recipes
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2012, 04:36:52 PM »
The APA is a lot less hoppy than I like mine, but it should be OK. I'm not sure what you were going for with the Pale Ale malt. It needs to be mashed - it's not really going to do anything for you as a steeping grain. The Victory needs to be mashed as well if you're looking to convert it enzymatically, but you will extract some flavor by steeping it, so that should be fine.

I haven't done a spruce ale before, but I have to think that the citrusy Cascade flavor/aroma would probably clash a bit. I'd either ditch the Cascade late hops altogether, or maybe go for something piney like Chinook or Simcoe instead.
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Re: Possible pale ale and spruce ale recipes
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2012, 04:48:53 PM »
good to know about the pale ale malt, i used the victory in my last IPA, as steeping grain.

one of the guys at the LHBS mentioned that he uses English pale ale malt as a steeping grain with extract beers with decent success
« Last Edit: October 22, 2012, 05:00:48 PM by csu007 »
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Re: Possible pale ale and spruce ale recipes
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2012, 01:42:06 PM »
I have heard it is actually better to get the spruce tips from the fresh growth in the spring. Supposedly they aren't as harsh/bitter tasting.
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Re: Possible pale ale and spruce ale recipes
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2012, 02:48:20 PM »
I run screaming from the room when I hear "spruce ale."

Bad experience.  Many years ago.  Still scarred.
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Re: Possible pale ale and spruce ale recipes
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2012, 10:35:03 PM »
I have heard it is actually better to get the spruce tips from the fresh growth in the spring. Supposedly they aren't as harsh/bitter tasting.

that was my thought and i have a massive blue spruce in my front yard.
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Re: Possible pale ale and spruce ale recipes
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2012, 02:29:25 PM »
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I run screaming from the room when I hear "spruce ale."

Bad experience.  Many years ago.  Still scarred.

I hear ya. The worst beer I ever made was a Cranberry / Spruce Black Lager for Christmas. I used extract for both the cranberry and spruce. It was awful. It tasted like pine sol that had already been used to clean the floor  :o
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Re: Possible pale ale and spruce ale recipes
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2012, 03:37:33 PM »
I like Alaskan Brewing's winter ale which has sitka spruce and there a few other commercial varieties that are pretty good.
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Re: Possible pale ale and spruce ale recipes
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2012, 04:44:31 PM »
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I run screaming from the room when I hear "spruce ale."

Bad experience.  Many years ago.  Still scarred.

I hear ya. The worst beer I ever made was a Cranberry / Spruce Black Lager for Christmas. I used extract for both the cranberry and spruce. It was awful. It tasted like pine sol that had already been used to clean the floor  :o

Yes. Pine Sol was the descriptor.

I must have kept a bottle for 10 years.  No one would drink it.
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Re: Possible pale ale and spruce ale recipes
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2012, 10:33:41 AM »
With great results IMO, I took red cedar berries...(juniper aint much different) yeah the
stuff that tastes/smells like Gin.  I put about 1/2 oz of them in the freezer to freeze
and bust the plant cell walls....then in the BK with the bittering hops for my summer saison.
This does work and no pinesol stuff.....it adds a great bittering dimension.
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Re: Possible pale ale and spruce ale recipes
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2012, 11:41:44 AM »
I run screaming from the room when I hear "spruce ale."

Bad experience.  Many years ago.  Still scarred.

Likewise.
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