[deepsouth]

i built up the starter a couple times.  recipe looked like this, 100% maris otter extract, local honey, amarillo, simcoe, and centennial.  5.8%  66 ibu

used 5 ounces of hops, most of them 15 minutes and later.  i used the honey to get a bit of an abv bump as with just the extract, it was coming in just above 4%. 

i'm undecided on dry hops at this time.  i'd love to, but i only have a couple ounces each of simcoe and amarillo on hand and i'd like to use them again.  i have some citra i could dry hop with or a couple other hops i can't recall off-hand.

the temps finally dropped down here, so i'm able to hold the room where i ferment beer down to 60 degrees constant, so i have high hopes for this beer.

[deepsouth]

another observation.....  i haven't been able to ferment a beer at 'recommended temp' for over three years now (two i took off from brewing) as my fermenting refrigerator got turned into a regular refrigerator.  usually, by now, the yeast has pretty much ripped through the fermentables, but this one is still bubbling away with a nice amount of krausen. 

[deepsouth]

this was friday morning...  loving the lower temps....

[deepsouth]

this beer is still fermenting like this, right now....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtCGFLU-pp4


i guess i had forgotten how much proper temp extends fermentation time.

[deepsouth]

the ambient temp and the temp of the fermenting beer is up to 68 at this point as it has warmed up down here.

my plan was to rack this beer into secondary (this sunday)  where i will dry hop it and brew a big dipa to put on the yeast. 

i'm still getting a bubble every 8 seconds out of the airlock (i guess because it has warmed up), so i'm a bit befuddled if this beer will ever look done.

i haven't taken a gravity reading since the activity hasn't really let up.

i dunno.

 

[deepsouth]

going to move this over to secondary on sunday morning and put it on three ounces of hops, amarillo, citra & simcoe and then i'm cleaning out last years ingredients and brewing a double ipa to put on this yeast cake....

beer name is (heh), suck my dipa

4 lbs extra light dry extract @ 60
3 lbs extra light dry extract @ 5
3 lbs maris otter liquid extract @ 5

.25 oz amarillo @ 30
.25 oz amarillo @ 20
.5 oz amarillo @ 5
.25 oz simcoe @ 30
.25 oz simcoe @ 20
.5 oz simcoe @ 5
.25 oz centennial @ 30
.25 oz centennial @ 20
.5 oz centennial @ 5
.5 oz citra @ 30
1 oz citra @ 20
1 oz citra @ 5

dry hops will be an ounce each of amarillo, citra & simcoe

iirc, it's about 100 ibu and 8.5%

[blatz]

I'd put some table sugar in that - otherwise you might end up with a DIPA/Barleywine tweener. 

[deepsouth]

I'd put some table sugar in that - otherwise you might end up with a DIPA/Barleywine tweener.

how much would you add?  would honey be a viable alternative? 

[blatz]

I'd put some table sugar in that - otherwise you might end up with a DIPA/Barleywine tweener.

how much would you add?  would honey be a viable alternative?

off the top of my head, I'd say replace a pound of extract with a pound of sugar.  Honey would definitely work as well.

[deepsouth]

I'd put some table sugar in that - otherwise you might end up with a DIPA/Barleywine tweener.

how much would you add?  would honey be a viable alternative?

off the top of my head, I'd say replace a pound of extract with a pound of sugar.  Honey would definitely work as well.

what about just adding in a pound of sugar in additon to?  would that work?

[blatz]

I'd put some table sugar in that - otherwise you might end up with a DIPA/Barleywine tweener.

how much would you add?  would honey be a viable alternative?

off the top of my head, I'd say replace a pound of extract with a pound of sugar.  Honey would definitely work as well.

what about just adding in a pound of sugar in additon to?  would that work?

well yeah- its just your gravity is going to be higher and thus your ABV - your call if you want that 

I would go with replacing though - I've had only one or two DIPAs over 9% that were good - seems to be the threshold for me at least where the booze starts overpowering the hops (since the malt presence should be minimal).

Maharaja, to me, was better when it was in the low 9s years ago.

[deepsouth]

thanks paul.  you are always so helpful.

[morticaixavier]

I'd put some table sugar in that - otherwise you might end up with a DIPA/Barleywine tweener.

how much would you add?  would honey be a viable alternative?

off the top of my head, I'd say replace a pound of extract with a pound of sugar.  Honey would definitely work as well.

what about just adding in a pound of sugar in additon to?  would that work?

Sean can check me on this but I think what he said in regards to this was that for every point OG added from simple sugars you can subtract .4 points from the FG, so if without the sugar you are looking at at FG say 1.020 1 lb of sugar added without removing any extract would add about ~6 points to the OG and reduce the FG by about ~3 points so 1.017, still pretty thick but you might get better attentuation than that.

[blatz]

I'd put some table sugar in that - otherwise you might end up with a DIPA/Barleywine tweener.

how much would you add?  would honey be a viable alternative?

off the top of my head, I'd say replace a pound of extract with a pound of sugar.  Honey would definitely work as well.

what about just adding in a pound of sugar in additon to?  would that work?

Sean can check me on this but I think what he said in regards to this was that for every point OG added from simple sugars you can subtract .4 points from the FG, so if without the sugar you are looking at at FG say 1.020 1 lb of sugar added without removing any extract would add about ~6 points to the OG and reduce the FG by about ~3 points so 1.017, still pretty thick but you might get better attentuation than that.

correct - I would rather replace since I'm more worried about it being sweet - Ruination, Pliny, Maharaja, etc. all finish in the 10-14 range give or take.  You'll want that to get the most hop expression possible. 

I'd want to target 15 as the FG and if you get lower, great!

[deepsouth]

replace it is.