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basic blonde ale
« on: February 01, 2013, 01:48:17 pm »
Hey Guys. I am looking for some basic direction on a simple blonde recipe. I am going for something crisp but with some sweetness. I am not sure yet but I will probably be adding zest, lemongrass, or something at the end of the boil to make it a bit more interesting. Any feedback?

85% two row
10% carapils
5% honey malt

14 g Centennial 60 min
14 g Centennial 10 min

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Re: basic blonde ale
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2013, 01:50:47 pm »
I like it - I like simple. Make sure fermentation goes well, you have little to hide behind.
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Re: basic blonde ale
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2013, 01:52:21 pm »
looks perfect to me!
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Re: basic blonde ale
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2013, 02:28:44 pm »
I know don't want it too dry, but 15% crystal malt in something this delicate seems like it would be overpowering to me. I'd cut both in half.
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Re: basic blonde ale
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2013, 02:38:31 pm »
I know don't want it too dry, but 15% crystal malt in something this delicate seems like it would be overpowering to me. I'd cut both in half.

Good point. I always forget that honey malt is more or less crystal. I might leave the honey where it is and decrease the carapils...say 5% honey, 5% carapils? I know that isn't half...
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Re: basic blonde ale
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2013, 12:33:23 pm »
I know don't want it too dry, but 15% crystal malt in something this delicate seems like it would be overpowering to me. I'd cut both in half.

Good point. I always forget that honey malt is more or less crystal. I might leave the honey where it is and decrease the carapils...say 5% honey, 5% carapils? I know that isn't half...

I'm using 2% - 3% carapil.  I get the effect I'm wanting and don't see a need to use more, unless wanting a crazy silky IPA.  I target roughly a half pound per 5 gallon recipe and scale/adjust as needed.

What are you looking for regarding the Honey malt?

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Re: basic blonde ale
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2013, 06:29:19 pm »
I know don't want it too dry, but 15% crystal malt in something this delicate seems like it would be overpowering to me. I'd cut both in half.

Good point. I always forget that honey malt is more or less crystal. I might leave the honey where it is and decrease the carapils...say 5% honey, 5% carapils? I know that isn't half...

I'm using 2% - 3% carapil.  I get the effect I'm wanting and don't see a need to use more, unless wanting a crazy silky IPA.  I target roughly a half pound per 5 gallon recipe and scale/adjust as needed.

What are you looking for regarding the Honey malt?

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Re: basic blonde ale
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2013, 10:59:15 pm »
Honey flavor and sweetness

I've not used that, anyone else?  A data-point is that I've had good results when pouring honey into the wort when the boil is done.  Chill to 180, mix it in, continue chilling.

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Re: basic blonde ale
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2013, 07:37:20 am »
Honey flavor and sweetness

I've not used that, anyone else?  A data-point is that I've had good results when pouring honey into the wort when the boil is done.  Chill to 180, mix it in, continue chilling.
That will work fine but the honey is all fructose and glucose.  It will ferment out completely, might add flavor but shouldn't add sweetness at all.
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Re: basic blonde ale
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2013, 09:04:26 am »
Honey flavor and sweetness

I've not used that, anyone else?  A data-point is that I've had good results when pouring honey into the wort when the boil is done.  Chill to 180, mix it in, continue chilling.
That will work fine but the honey is all fructose and glucose.  It will ferment out completely, might add flavor but shouldn't add sweetness at all.

In my experience, honey malt works better than honey for imparting actual flavor and sweetness. 5% seems to be the perfect amount for me to get a nice influence that is not overpowering whatsoever.
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Re: basic blonde ale
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2013, 09:45:25 am »
I'm trying to develop a blonde ale for a house beer.  I'm on batch III and should be doing batch 4 soon. 

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Each so far has been with a different yeast as well (although on batch III that was because the HBS was out of US-05, lol).

Body wise I'm liking the addition of corn.  We'll see how batch III tastes, it had more corn.

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Re: basic blonde ale
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2013, 08:29:19 am »
So I have not brewed this yet and am kind of torn. I am thinking about going with this grain bill instead of the original one. Any feedback? When I don't brew soon enough, I tinker around way too much...

80% two row
10% white wheat
5% munich I
5% honey malt

14 g Centennial 60 min
14 g Centennial 10 min

OG 1.049
IBUs 22
SRM 5.1
US05 yeast
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Fermenting: IPA
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Re: basic blonde ale
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2013, 03:08:11 pm »
So I have not brewed this yet and am kind of torn. I am thinking about going with this grain bill instead of the original one. Any feedback? When I don't brew soon enough, I tinker around way too much...

80% two row
10% white wheat
5% munich I
5% honey malt

14 g Centennial 60 min
14 g Centennial 10 min

OG 1.049
IBUs 22
SRM 5.1
US05 yeast


It looks good, but personally I think the original one was better.   I'm sure they'd both be good, but my money is on the original one being closer to what would be expected of a blonde ale (by me, anyway).  I like the simpler grain bill as well. 
You should really brew them both and compare.   Or at least brew the original to assess the result, and make changes for the next batch from there if needed.
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Re: basic blonde ale
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2013, 03:18:26 pm »
I'd go:

90% 2-Row
5% wheat
5% honey malt

keep everything else the same.

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« Last Edit: February 12, 2013, 06:13:29 pm by hoser »

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Re: basic blonde ale
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2013, 06:24:37 pm »
You can get a lot of crispness from carbonation. I seem to remember the use of rice contributes to this quality as well.
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