[alfredo]

Does somebody have any experience wwith the Mandarina Bavaria hop?

[Thirsty_Monk]

No but it should be quite citrusy.

[HoosierBrew]

I think it's supposedly a Cascade offshoot - very citrusy. I'd really like to try it. I think Stone used it in a beer last year.

[alfredo]

That is what I found about it (http://www.baywa.eu/en/): Mandarina Bavaria has a pleasantly fruity
aroma revealing a strong tangerine note with slightly sweet aroma impressions. Alpha: 8.5 – 10.5 %
Beta: 5 – 6.5 %, Co-Humulone: approx. 33 %.

I'll try it in a wheat ale.

Pale Malt (2 Row) Bel (9,0 EBC) 45,9 %
Wheat Malt, Ger (3,9 EBC) Grain 45,9 %
Carawheat (Weyermann) (98,5 EBC) Grain 4,6 %
Mandarina Bavaria [7,80 %] - Boil 30,0 min Hop- 6,2 IBUs
Mandarina Bavaria [7,80 %] - Boil 15,0 min Hop - 16,0 IBUs
Mandarina Bavaria [7,80 %] - Boil 0 min
SafBrew Ale S-33

[majorvices]

I have a pound of it. Planning in brewing with it soon. Been working my way through some interesting hops lately and really looking forward to that one.

[Alewyfe]

To my taste it has a sweeter(?) character than the other C hops. More like a fruit salad than a citrus flavor.
I just dry hopped an APA with it and it reminds me of a beer that I did with Belma and Calypso.

[yso191]

To my taste it has a sweeter(?) character than the other C hops. More like a fruit salad than a citrus flavor.
I just dry hopped an APA with it and it reminds me of a beer that I did with Belma and Calypso.

Interesting.  My next brew is an APA with Mandarina hops.  Your comments make me wonder if I should cut back on the C40.  I don't want it to be cloying, but I do like some residual sweetness in my APA's and IPA's.  What do you think?


Tangerine Dream, American Pale Ale (10 A)

8 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM)  82.9 %
1 lbs Munich Malt (9.0 SRM)  9.8 %
12.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM)  7.3 %
0.55 oz Columbus (Tomahawk/Zeus) CTZ [14.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min  23.5 IBUs

1.00 oz Summit [17.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min 10.4 IBUs
3.00 oz Mandarina Bavaria [8.50 %] - Boil 1.0 min  3.4 IBUs
1.0 pkg London ESB Ale (Wyeast Labs #1968)
5.00 oz Mandarina Bavaria [8.50 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days  0.0 IBUs


Gravity, Alcohol Content and Color

Est Original Gravity: 1.048 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.007 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.4 %
Bitterness: 37.2 IBUs
Est Color: 7.0 SRM

[Kinetic]

Summit will give you some onion when used that late in the boil.  Try it at 20 minutes to avoid the onion.

[HoosierBrew]

I've never used Mandarina, but it's on my to do list. I say go with the recipe as is (except for maybe moving the Summit)- it's not that much crystal. I'll be curious to see what you think on the hops.

[denny]

Summit will give you some onion when used that late in the boil.  Try it at 20 minutes to avoid the onion.

I do an IPA that all summit under 20 min. (see Griffin Spit in the recipe wiki).  No onion.

[erockrph]

I brewed a Red X/Mandarina Bavaria SMaSH lager that is still conditioning. My first impressions were "meh" - it seemed like mainly noble hops, with a touch of citrus. With a name like that, I was expecting Summit (hold the onions).

I've been finding that a lot of the new German hops just aren't living up to their billing compared to the expectations based on the newer US and NZ varieties. Based on the name, I don't think I'll be playing with Hüll Melon, but I'm still curious about Hallertau Blanc.

[yso191]

Now I'm second-guessing if I should balance the Mandarina with Summit!  I definitely want Tangerine out of this.  I am also confident that the chance of onion is small, but even if I do get some, it should dissipate. 

I was going to do an all-Summit APA until I found some Mandarina online.  I'll probably go with the recipe above since I have 2 8oz. packs of Mandarina coming, and I hate to not use all the hops in a pack.

[erockrph]

I have 2 8oz. packs of Mandarina coming, and I hate to not use all the hops in a pack.

I like that line of thinking!

[yso191]

I had to run down to Heritage U. where my wife works, and having just had this discussion of Summit hops, I passed this hop field, and thought, "Summit hops are the only ones that can be short trellised.  I wonder if this is a field of Summit?"  So I stopped and asked the owner.  Indeed, Summit.  Left to its own devices because the market for Summit is so bad.  Apparently others have found this hop wanting.

[denny]

I had to run down to Heritage U. where my wife works, and having just had this discussion of Summit hops, I passed this hop field, and thought, "Summit hops are the only ones that can be short trellised.  I wonder if this is a field of Summit?"  So I stopped and asked the owner.  Indeed, Summit.  Left to its own devices because the market for Summit is so bad.  Apparently others have found this hop wanting.

Bummer...I love 'em!