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Experimental IPA, Need a little help
« on: September 29, 2014, 01:57:39 AM »
I originally wanted to create a Belgian IPA that was a very approachable.  A "Gateway IPA". My original Mosaic, Citra combo I think will work better with a tradition IPA yeast instead of trying to make it a Belgian. This is my second attempt at a Belgian IPA. I'm looking to create an IPA with some tropical fruit/berry flavors from my hops and a slight mint taste from Perle. I think with the white wine flavors from Nelson this could be really good. What are your thoughts?

Malt/Grains:
2lbs Pilsner Malt
1lb Cara-Crystal
1lb Munich 2
.5 lb Flaked Oats
6lbs Light DME

Boil:
60 Minutes – .5oz Nelson
20 Minute - .5oz Perle
5 Minute 1 oz Pacific Gem, 1 Motueka
Dry Hop 1 oz Motueka, 1 oz pacific gem , .5oz Nelson

Yeast:
WL550
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Re: Experimental IPA, Need a little help
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2014, 07:29:19 PM »
Anyone?

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Re: Experimental IPA, Need a little help
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2014, 07:47:44 PM »
Looks to be fine. Is that really 0.1 oz. Pacific Gem?
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Re: Experimental IPA, Need a little help
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2014, 08:11:44 PM »
It's fine but why the cara-crystal?

and +1 to Jeff's questions RE: .1 ounce PG?
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Re: Experimental IPA, Need a little help
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2014, 10:18:12 PM »
Sorry for the typo I meant 1oz of Pacific Gem.  I'm basing the malt profile on Mikkeller's Nelson Sauvignon.  I think the additional hops could provide a great balanced flavor.


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Re: Experimental IPA, Need a little help
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2014, 10:27:43 PM »
one thing to keep in mind when converting an all grain to partial mash is that the extract will likely have some crystal malt in it already. just a thought and certainly not something that will compromise the quality of your brew.
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Re: Experimental IPA, Need a little help
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2014, 10:37:23 PM »
+1 to what Mort said.

550 is a very versitle Belgian yeast, so it is a great choice.
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Re: Experimental IPA, Need a little help
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2014, 02:17:36 AM »
Mort would you recommend substituting the crystal with anything else?  Or changing in any other way?

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Re: Experimental IPA, Need a little help
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2014, 02:36:09 PM »
Mort would you recommend substituting the crystal with anything else?  Or changing in any other way?
That depends, what were you thinking the crystal would bring? you don't specify what color level the crystal is. If it's just carapils I would leave it out and bump your DME or pils malt. If it was a higher color crystal (30-40) I'd just add more munich.
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Re: Experimental IPA, Need a little help
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2014, 05:03:28 PM »
I was thinking at first of using a  Caracrystal Wheat Malt 55L.  However, I was going for more of a sangria quality to this. White wine, tropical fruits and a hint of mint.  So I think a 20 L may be best.  What are your thoughts?

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Re: Experimental IPA, Need a little help
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2014, 05:30:52 PM »
I was thinking at first of using a  Caracrystal Wheat Malt 55L.  However, I was going for more of a sangria quality to this. White wine, tropical fruits and a hint of mint.  So I think a 20 L may be best.  What are your thoughts?

in that case I would skip it altogether and just bump the pils. I get a slight grape like sweetness from pils malt anyway that should help highlight the white wine thing a bit.
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Re: Experimental IPA, Need a little help
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2014, 05:35:42 PM »
Malt/Grains:
3lbs Pilsner Malt
1lb Munich 2
.5 lb Flaked Oats
6lbs Light DME

Boil:
60 Minutes – .5oz Nelson
20 Minute - .5oz Perle
5 Minute 1 oz Pacific Gem, 1 Motueka
Dry Hop 1 oz Motueka, 1 oz pacific gem , .5oz Nelson

Yeast:
WL550

Mort, thank you so much for your help.  Would you recommend any other changes?

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Re: Experimental IPA, Need a little help
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2014, 05:44:17 PM »
I would brew it and see what you think. it will be a lot easier to tweak towards your goal if you can taste while you're doing it.
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Re: Experimental IPA, Need a little help
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2014, 06:00:00 PM »
Thank you sir.  Hopefully, I'll be brewing both my Belgian IPA's this week.  I'll keep the board updated. 

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Re: Experimental IPA, Need a little help
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2014, 06:09:42 PM »
cool! looking forward to hearing how they turn out.
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