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Bottle conitioning a 10 abv Baltic Porter.
« on: October 19, 2014, 02:49:11 PM »
Hi people. Looking to brew my 2nd 10% abv Imperial Honey Porter. I kegged the first batch but plan on bottling the next one. All went well with the first one, I primaried for 3 weeks, secondary for 4weeks, then served with only 6 days in the keg.
I plan to bottle condition a 2nd batch but have read that larger ABV beers don't bottle condition very well  because the yeast is stressed.
Target OG 1.090 and FG should be 1.015. I will be fermenting with 2 pkgs US05.
What are your suggestions for bottle conditioning this bad boy?

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Re: Bottle conitioning a 10 abv Baltic Porter.
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2014, 11:22:04 PM »
I've bottled with the primary yeast on beers that big but sometimes they take a while to carbonate. Nowadays I prefer adding some neutral wine yeast at bottling as an insurance policy. I have never had a problem getting full and fast carbonation that way.
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Re: Bottle conitioning a 10 abv Baltic Porter.
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2014, 02:24:55 PM »
You should be OK without any extra yeast as long as you're patient. It doesn't hurt to add a little extra at bottling as an insurance policy if you'd like. But you need way less than you think you do. One or two grams of US-05 at bottling is all that you need for a 5-gallon batch. If you use too much yeast you will get a lot of trub in your bottles.
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Re: Bottle conitioning a 10 abv Baltic Porter.
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2014, 09:51:33 PM »
You should be OK without any extra yeast as long as you're patient. It doesn't hurt to add a little extra at bottling as an insurance policy if you'd like. But you need way less than you think you do. One or two grams of US-05 at bottling is all that you need for a 5-gallon batch. If you use too much yeast you will get a lot of trub in your bottles.

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When I bottle condition, usually at 70oF, an average beer takes 10-14 days. The big beers, 8-10% usually can take at least 6-8 weeks under the same conditions without adding yeast. IME, the bigger beers need the additional time anyways simply to condition and mellow, sometimes as long as 3-5 months when they really shine:)

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Re: Bottle conitioning a 10 abv Baltic Porter.
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2014, 09:57:17 PM »
I really like Lalvin EC-1118 dry champagne yeast for this purpose.  The packets (5g) are only $1 at the LHBS and the strain is very neutral with a high alcohol tolerance as well as able to function in a low pH environment.  Both of those make it well worth it! 

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Re: Bottle conitioning a 10 abv Baltic Porter.
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2014, 10:31:06 PM »
You should be OK without any extra yeast as long as you're patient. It doesn't hurt to add a little extra at bottling as an insurance policy if you'd like. But you need way less than you think you do. One or two grams of US-05 at bottling is all that you need for a 5-gallon batch. If you use too much yeast you will get a lot of trub in your bottles.

This ^^^^   I have not had any real problems getting big beers to carbonate.  Patience is all you need.  Maybe instead of getting carbonation at about 2 weeks, it will take a full month.  It will still work.  Since you've fermented for nearly 2 months though, it might not be a bad idea to add a couple of ounces of fresh US-05 as insurance.  Not a full pack but just a sprinkle is all.
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Re: Bottle conitioning a 10 abv Baltic Porter.
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2014, 10:49:42 PM »
I add extra yeast to 10%+ beers every time due to one batch that failed to carbonate. Beer is still awesome and after 4 years still flat as the day it was bottled.

I throw in half a pack of lavin champagne as it is only $0.75 and I don't mind tossing the rest. Worth the hassle in my opinion.

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Re: Bottle conitioning a 10 abv Baltic Porter.
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2014, 12:35:26 AM »
You should be OK without any extra yeast as long as you're patient. It doesn't hurt to add a little extra at bottling as an insurance policy if you'd like. But you need way less than you think you do. One or two grams of US-05 at bottling is all that you need for a 5-gallon batch. If you use too much yeast you will get a lot of trub in your bottles.

This ^^^^   I have not had any real problems getting big beers to carbonate.  Patience is all you need.  Maybe instead of getting carbonation at about 2 weeks, it will take a full month.  It will still work.  Since you've fermented for nearly 2 months though, it might not be a bad idea to add a couple of ounces grams of fresh US-05 as insurance.  Not a full pack but just a sprinkle is all.
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Re: Bottle conitioning a 10 abv Baltic Porter.
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2014, 01:26:27 AM »
Oh yeah, thanks.  They knew what I meant (right?!).
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