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Offline troybinso

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WLP 644 genetic results
« on: April 10, 2015, 03:00:42 PM »
White Labs released their studies on wlp 644 "Brett Trois" and it is officially determined that it is a "wild Saccharomyces."

http://www.whitelabs.com/blog/wlp644-research-results

http://www.whitelabs.com/files/644_Explanation.pdf

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Re: WLP 644 genetic results
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2015, 03:35:32 PM »
Even more interesting is their release of WLP648 - which is speculated to be the BSI Drie Fonteinen strain. Sweet.
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Re: WLP 644 genetic results
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2015, 06:10:32 PM »
Well this is most interesting.  I just pitched this last sunday into my Saison as a finisher.

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Re: WLP 644 genetic results
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2015, 06:03:00 PM »
Props to White Labs for both doing the research to set this straight, and the transparency in reporting their results.

The more I think about this, the more excited I am at what this may end up meaning for the future of "wild" beer. As far as I am aware, this is the first commercially available "wild Saccharomyces" strain. This is a whole uncharted territory with a lot of potential. We're still just barely getting a handle on Brett. Who knows, maybe Wild Sacc will open up even more options.

Even more interesting is their release of WLP648 - which is speculated to be the BSI Drie Fonteinen strain. Sweet.

So was Brett Trois. I will remain cautious in my optimism.
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Re: WLP 644 genetic results
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2015, 07:00:21 PM »
Regardless of this strain being brett or wild sacch. it still is a great one to brew with.  It is a fairly fast fermenter (IMObservations) and provides unique aroma and flavor characteristics that pair well with a variety of hops and malts. I have used it several times to brew blending beers for aged sours with great results.  Cool strain!

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Re: WLP 644 genetic results
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2015, 07:34:51 PM »
Unfortunately, however, I used it in a Flanders Red that was put in an oak barrel, so now my barrel is what it is....on the good side I am blending, anyway, so the blends are able to minimize the Wild Sacc effect somewhat and I have generally liked the flavor, so there we go....
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Re: WLP 644 genetic results
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2015, 08:53:53 PM »

Regardless of this strain being brett or wild sacch. it still is a great one to brew with.  It is a fairly fast fermenter (IMObservations) and provides unique aroma and flavor characteristics that pair well with a variety of hops and malts. I have used it several times to brew blending beers for aged sours with great results.  Cool strain!

When you say fast, how fast?


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Re: WLP 644 genetic results
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2015, 06:35:26 PM »
Within a normal ale fermentation time frame given proper pitch rate and oxygenation.  Typically under 10 days FG has been reached.  Although I have seen the krausen stick around for longer than some normally do, but only on rare occasions. 

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Re: WLP 644 genetic results
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2015, 07:57:06 PM »
Have you used it as a secondary? If so approx time frame on that?


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