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base malt for Irish Red - MO vs GP
« on: November 03, 2015, 03:43:40 PM »
I have been using German malts almost exclusively for the past year. I am planning an Irish Red at some point and realize it is time to switch it up.

Should I use Marris Otter or Golden Promise? I think I have used MO once ever and have never used GP.
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Re: base malt for Irish Red - MO vs GP
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2015, 04:59:55 PM »
I guess it will come down to what other ingredients will make up the recipe and what you want out of the beer. I don't think you can go wrong with either malt. I love MO but every maltster is different.  GP is said to be even richer, maybe sweeter, rounder in flavor if I'm not mistaken. MO is slightly toasty at times and Biscuity is a common term to describe it.

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Re: base malt for Irish Red - MO vs GP
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2015, 05:06:35 PM »
Thanks. I am going with a very simple recipe so the base malt seems pretty important. As you noted, I don't think I could go wrong with either choice so it will likely just come down to a decision on brew day.

 
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Re: base malt for Irish Red - MO vs GP
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2015, 11:37:47 PM »
Some shops are starting to carry malts from Ireland. You might want to try that if you can find it. I think Morebeer has it.
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Re: base malt for Irish Red - MO vs GP
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2015, 11:43:13 PM »
All things equal, I'd use GP for an Irish Red. It has a rich malty flavor without the biscuity/toasty character of MO. I love MO, I just see GP as better suited to the Red.
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Re: base malt for Irish Red - MO vs GP
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2015, 12:26:48 AM »
All things equal, I'd use GP for an Irish Red. It has a rich malty flavor without the biscuity/toasty character of MO. I love MO, I just see GP as better suited to the Red.


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Re: base malt for Irish Red - MO vs GP
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2015, 12:58:26 AM »
All things equal, I'd use GP for an Irish Red. It has a rich malty flavor without the biscuity/toasty character of MO. I love MO, I just see GP as better suited to the Red.

GP it is. Thanks Jon!
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Re: base malt for Irish Red - MO vs GP
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2015, 07:34:37 PM »
I need to try the GP..always used MO in mine.
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Re: base malt for Irish Red - MO vs GP
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2015, 07:47:30 PM »
To me, it has a more rounded, fuller malt note vs the toasty, biscuit Maris Otter.  Both are fantastic though!

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Re: base malt for Irish Red - MO vs GP
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2015, 07:48:43 PM »
I need to try the GP..always used MO in mine.

There's no reason not to use MO there if you like the toasty /biscuity character in your red. MO is awesome stuff. I just like GP better in mine.
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Re: base malt for Irish Red - MO vs GP
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2015, 11:40:10 PM »
Ive fallen back in love with my APA now that I've switched from GW 2 row to GP and dropped the crystal. Moving my late additions to whirlpool helped too. Love me some Golden Promise.

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Re: base malt for Irish Red - MO vs GP
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2015, 12:10:44 AM »
I'm all for trying something new.just have to find best place to order GP from- nobody carries it locally.


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Re: base malt for Irish Red - MO vs GP
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2015, 12:15:47 AM »
I'm all for trying something new.just have to find best place to order GP from- nobody carries it locally.


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Ken, my LHBS is cheaper than NB, Morebeer, and Midwest :

http://shop.greatfermentations.com/product/simpsons-golden-promise/specialty-grains


EDIT - Not sure how price will balance with shipping. I walk in there obviously. Price/lb is 40 cents cheaper than most all others on this grain.
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Re: base malt for Irish Red - MO vs GP
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2015, 12:19:10 AM »

I'm all for trying something new.just have to find best place to order GP from- nobody carries it locally.


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Ken, my LHBS is cheaper than NB, Morebeer, and Midwest :

http://shop.greatfermentations.com/product/simpsons-golden-promise/specialty-grains

Nice .50 cheaper and same shipping costs.


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Re: base malt for Irish Red - MO vs GP
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2015, 01:14:49 AM »
$1.89/lb in 10lb bags from MoreBeer.