[beersk]

Forget the mashout for the reasons I listed.  Just sparge with 190F water.

That's what I do.

Same here, but it's with 180F water on my system for some reason. Usually gets me to about 167F depending on my mash temp.

[euge]

Sounds exciting then! I'll just lauter into the kettle. Get a flame going under that (which ought to substitute for the mashout)- do the next sparge and lauter...

Getting the mash and both sparges done in under an hour for a 10 gallon batch sounds unreal to me.

Perhaps I should commit to a much smaller batch on this. Time to break out the 2 gallon tun.

[denny]

Sounds exciting then! I'll just lauter into the kettle. Get a flame going under that (which ought to substitute for the mashout)- do the next sparge and lauter...

Getting the mash and both sparges done in under an hour for a 10 gallon batch sounds unreal to me.

Perhaps I should commit to a much smaller batch on this. Time to break out the 2 gallon tun.

I start my runoff slowly while I vorlauf a qt. or so. After I pour that back in, I open the valve full.  Of course, that will depend on your own system.