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Two row vs. pale malt
« on: March 16, 2016, 10:07:20 PM »
What's the difference really.

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Re: Two row vs. pale malt
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2016, 10:09:14 PM »
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Re: Two row vs. pale malt
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2016, 10:11:24 PM »
Then why do LHBS use separate bins?

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Re: Two row vs. pale malt
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2016, 10:16:07 PM »
Two row is actually the type of barley. It's how it's kilned that makes it pale malt. Usually two row and pale malt can be utilized interchangeably. I buy Briess two row pale malt.

Could the one bin be pale ale malt? Which would be different than pale malt
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Re: Two row vs. pale malt
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2016, 10:19:11 PM »
Just to add on - 2 row is pale malt. Pretty much all pale base malts come from 2 row barley. But at a LHBS, 2 row refers to mild tasting American style malt (for American styles). The confusion is that some maltsters produce what's called 'Pale Ale Malt', which more (somewhat) closely resembles European base malts like Maris Otter. So I'm assuming your LHBS sells 2 row and domestic Pale Ale malt, in addition to other European varieties.
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Re: Two row vs. pale malt
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2016, 10:50:13 PM »
Ask the LHBS owner for the Malt Analysis Sheets for both malts (or look them up yourself!)

They'll tell you everything about the malt from whether the type of barley was 2-Row or 6-Row to the Lovibond and Diastatic power of the malt!  You'll even get protein content, fine grind extract, beta glucan and soluble/total protein ratios to help you make decisions on your mash and water.

Briess and Weyermann have some of the more informative analysis sheets.

Pale Ale Malt:

Diastatic Power: 85 Lintner
SRM: 3.5 Lovibond

Two Row Malt (perhaps termed Brewers Malt):

Diastatic Power: 140 Lintner
SRM: 1.8 Lovibond

As you can see the "two row" labeled malt is going to have higher diastatic power which will help convert a lot of adjuncts such as corn and rice.  It will also be lighter in flavor.

Contrast that to the Pale Ale malt which has a darker color, more flavor (less sweet more nutty/biscuity) and won't be able to convert as much adjunct as quickly as the two row.

Here's a couple of analysis sheets from Briess:

http://www.brewingwithbriess.com/Assets/PDFs/Briess_PISB_BrewersMalt.pdf
http://www.brewingwithbriess.com/Assets/PDFs/Briess_PISB_PaleAleMalt.pdf

Briess Analysis Sheets Available Here:
http://www.brewingwithbriess.com/Products/Base.htm

Weyermann Analysis Sheets Available Here (download the specs as PDF's):
http://www.weyermann.de/eng/produkte.asp?idkat=15&umenue=yes&idmenue=&sprache=2
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Re: Two row vs. pale malt
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2016, 10:12:53 PM »
So Pale Ale and Pale Ale have differences?  What are they?

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Re: Two row vs. pale malt
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2016, 10:19:24 PM »
Everyday plain domestic pale malt is also called 2-row. Many malts are made from 2-row, so this name irritates some. Pale ale malt is also made of 2-row and is designed to mimic English pale malt.

Pale ale malt is slightly darker and has a bit more flavor IMO. I have used it, but normally opt for domestic pale or Maris otter.

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Re: Two row vs. pale malt
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2016, 10:23:50 PM »
So Pale Ale and Pale Ale have differences?  What are they?


Between Pale Ale malt and Pale Ale malt? None. The difference is between U.S. 2 row (sometimes called pale malt) and what is called Pale Ale malt. 2 row/Pale Malt is a mild, clean malt used to make American styles. Pale Ale malt is a little more malty rich and is meant to be (loosely) in the ballpark with European malts like Maris Otter.
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Re: Two row vs. pale malt
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2016, 12:39:45 PM »
Take the base malt and taste it and that will give you some indication of the difference in flavor.
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