[dmtaylor]

I like the taste of yeast poop.

[TGerbracht]

I've found that pitching a single smack pack a few weeks old is a good under pitch. Don't make a large starter for a Hefeweizen, it turns out quite bland.

It's odd, but I don't make a starter, don't particularly oxygenate, and hold the fermentation at 62 and I've had good results.

I did a multi-step mash as well acid, protein, beta, alpha.

[dmtaylor]

I've found that pitching a single smack pack a few weeks old is a good under pitch. Don't make a large starter for a Hefeweizen, it turns out quite bland.

It's odd, but I don't make a starter, don't particularly oxygenate, and hold the fermentation at 62 and I've had good results.

I swear, my best hefs were the ones I made like the above in like 1999 when I didn't know how to brew at all.

I did a multi-step mash as well acid, protein, beta, alpha.

That's done a lot.  However, I'm super skeptical as to whether the extra effort does a dang thing to improve the beer one iota.

[erockrph]

I've found that pitching a single smack pack a few weeks old is a good under pitch. Don't make a large starter for a Hefeweizen, it turns out quite bland.

It's odd, but I don't make a starter, don't particularly oxygenate, and hold the fermentation at 62 and I've had good results.

Same here in my experience (for a 5-gallon batch). Starter = bland hefe, 1 smack pack with no starter = flavorful hefe. I confirmed this years later when I moved to 2.5 gallon batches. One full smack pack led to bland hefe's again. Cutting to half of a pack brought back the flavor.

[santoch]

I've found that pitching a single smack pack a few weeks old is a good under pitch. Don't make a large starter for a Hefeweizen, it turns out quite bland.

It's odd, but I don't make a starter, don't particularly oxygenate, and hold the fermentation at 62 and I've had good results.

Same here in my experience (for a 5-gallon batch). Starter = bland hefe, 1 smack pack with no starter = flavorful hefe. I confirmed this years later when I moved to 2.5 gallon batches. One full smack pack led to bland hefe's again. Cutting to half of a pack brought back the flavor.

Similar experience here.  Smack pack on stir plate = bland.  1 smack pack no stir plate = much more flavorful.

In 5 gallons

[santoch]

Clove is a 4-vinyl phenol, not an ester...


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Yes.  Clove is 4-vinyl guaiacol, which is a phenol
As someone stated, abbreviated as 4vg.

Hth

[JJeffers09]

Clove is a 4-vinyl phenol, not an ester...


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Which you want or don't want in a weissbier? To balance the isoamyl acetate - an ester.

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[mabrungard]

I like the taste of yeast poop.

Isn't it yeast pee?

[macbrews]

I like the taste of yeast poop.

Would that be hefecoprophagiphilia?


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[dmtaylor]

I like the taste of yeast poop.

Would that be hefecoprophagiphilia?

Yes, I'm what you call a saccharomycescoprophiliac.

Funny you should mention coprophagy.... in college I actually seriously used terms related to this as insults.

Dr. Brungard is probably right too; this is closer to a urinary thing than poopy.  But I'm not a biologist or biochemist, but just a regular vanilla chemical engineer.

   

[santoch]

Clove is a 4-vinyl phenol, not an ester...


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Which you want or don't want in a weissbier? To balance the isoamyl acetate - an ester.

Yep, that's the one you DO want along with the isoamyl acetate (banana).

[JJeffers09]

I like the taste of yeast poop.

Would that be hefecoprophagiphilia?

Yes, I'm what you call a saccharomycescoprophiliac.

Funny you should mention coprophagy.... in college I actually seriously used terms related to this as insults.

Dr. Brungard is probably right too; this is closer to a urinary thing than poopy.  But I'm not a biologist or biochemist, but just a regular vanilla chemical engineer.

   

Im just a regular obsessed beer geek with average intelligence, and a poor understanding of proper engrish...

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[JJeffers09]

Clove is a 4-vinyl phenol, not an ester...


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Which you want or don't want in a weissbier? To balance the isoamyl acetate - an ester.

Yep, that's the one you DO want along with the isoamyl acetate (banana).

No, are you kidding.... no way... what is your source of knowledge?

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