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Offline bigpete225

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Should I remake my starter?
« on: May 15, 2018, 03:36:16 PM »
Quick starter question... This past weekend I had intended to brew a DIPA and made a 2L starter of WLP007 but wasn't able to get around to brewing, now I have this starter sitting in the fridge.  I plan on giving it another go this coming weekend.  Should I just warm up this starter, decant and pitch as normal or should I kick up a new starter using the yeast from the first?

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Re: Should I remake my starter?
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2018, 03:53:26 PM »
What will your OG be? Without knowing I'm leaning towards suggesting a decant and pitch.

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Re: Should I remake my starter?
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2018, 03:57:22 PM »
I wouldn't even warm it up.  Just decant and pitch.
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Re: Should I remake my starter?
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2018, 04:31:12 PM »
Thanks for the feedback.  I'm shooting for about 1.080 OG.

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Re: Should I remake my starter?
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2018, 09:07:52 PM »
I’m just curious what you are worried about? Cell count? Pouring in some bad beer?
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Re: Should I remake my starter?
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2018, 04:07:15 PM »
Honestly....not sure if you should reheat it. I would decant and let it warm up some for sure.

1.080 is pretty stiff....do you think you have enough cells even in 2L? I'm estimating you need about 400 billion (1 million cells/ml/Plato.

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Re: Should I remake my starter?
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2018, 04:55:57 PM »
Honestly....not sure if you should reheat it. I would decant and let it warm up some for sure.

1.080 is pretty stiff....do you think you have enough cells even in 2L? I'm estimating you need about 400 billion (1 million cells/ml/Plato.

good thought. depending on how the starter was prepared, mrmalty.com agrees... if you had it on a stirplate the calculator says you're good with 2L.  i know there has been a lot of discussion on the accuracy of these tools, so take it for what it's worth.

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Re: Should I remake my starter?
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2018, 08:35:36 PM »
FWIW, you could make your wort, chill it to pitching temp and run off a liter or so; "shake it like it owes you money", pitch the yeast into the shaken wort and cover with foil for a few hours, then pitch the whole thing into the wort for the whole batch.  Then watch it take off.  My experience is that this makes the best starter and this approach is endorsed by Klackitat Jim (the yeast whisperer) and Denny (the Experimenter and questioner of all conventional things homebrew), as far as I recall, at least.
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Re: Should I remake my starter?
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2018, 09:22:51 PM »
FWIW, you could make your wort, chill it to pitching temp and run off a liter or so; "shake it like it owes you money", pitch the yeast into the shaken wort and cover with foil for a few hours, then pitch the whole thing into the wort for the whole batch.  Then watch it take off.  My experience is that this makes the best starter and this approach is endorsed by Klackitat Jim (the yeast whisperer) and Denny (the Experimenter and questioner of all conventional things homebrew), as far as I recall, at least.
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But, yup. That's what I would do, except I'm too lazy to shake and would use O2.

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Re: Should I remake my starter?
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2018, 12:16:46 PM »
FWIW, you could make your wort, chill it to pitching temp and run off a liter or so; "shake it like it owes you money", pitch the yeast into the shaken wort and cover with foil for a few hours, then pitch the whole thing into the wort for the whole batch.  Then watch it take off.  My experience is that this makes the best starter and this approach is endorsed by Klackitat Jim (the yeast whisperer) and Denny (the Experimenter and questioner of all conventional things homebrew), as far as I recall, at least.


verrrrrrrry interestingggg... can't wait to try it!!