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Offline BrewnWKopperKat

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Re: Using ChatGPT to create recipes
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2024, 07:09:01 pm »
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It sounds like Denny and I are in agreement about one thing: the whole process is fun, and for me, the creativity of writing recipes is essential. If I had to use recipes other people, or my toaster, wrote, I'd probably quit.

+1.  And can I join the group?

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It's important to remember that ChatGPT is a full-blown moron.

Morons are capable of thought.  LLMs, not so much.

LLMs (like ChatGPT) can be good at summarizing information, but I wouldn't consider LLMs to be creative. 

For some background on LLMs (and ChatGPT), consider giving this a read:

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What Is ChatGPT Doing … and Why Does It Work?
It’s Just Adding One Word at a Time
-- https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/02/what-is-chatgpt-doing-and-why-does-it-work/

Like any other category of "software", it has a use. 

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Is it artificial?  Yes

Is it intelligent?  No; it's statistical word generation.

When I use it for work, I can save some time by using it to summarize a topic within a body of knowledge.  Generally, the time savings comes from the creation of the summary.  I seem to spend the same amount of time verifying the information.

Code generation is currently "hit or miss" - much like "stack overflow" topics.

Overall, it feels like ChatGPT is "bing on steroids" with a different "gate keeper" who obscures original sources.

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Back to brewing beer at home: here's a starter "prompt" for comparing 30 min and 90 min boils ...

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limit the context to brewing beer at home.  do not anthropomorphize responses.  further limit responses to base malts (but exclude pilsen malt).  Summarize the strengths of a 90 minute boil when compared to a 30 minute boil




Offline Clint Yeastwood

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Re: Using ChatGPT to create recipes
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2024, 07:37:10 pm »
I think one problem with ChatGPT is that people assume it's perfect instead of finding out what it's good at and using it for whatever that is. I'm a lawyer, and the legal establishment is now telling us horror stories about incompetent lawyers who let ChatGPT write memoranda of law. It makes cases up. So not really a lawyer, but useful when you want to know how to refinish a door.

It kind of reminds me of people's attitudes about Einstein. He was a tremendous idiot about a lot of things, but people think that because he was a great physicist, everything he said about anything was great advice.
Go ahead. Make my IPA.

Eccentricity is its own reward.

Offline BrewnWKopperKat

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Re: Using ChatGPT to create recipes
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2024, 10:09:41 am »
I think one problem with ChatGPT is that people assume it's perfect instead of finding out what it's good at and using it for whatever that is. [...]
Agreed.   

I find that, with the right prompts, it can be useful for summarizing a topic. 

I'll suggest being extremely cautious when trying to use it to learn something new - quality educational material is quality material because it's reviewed and edited. 

As for creating content, I could see using it outline a topic, then write a first draft of various sections.  Reviews and editing are still necessary to produce quality content. 

eta: one area of LLM research involves training LLMs on LLM generated content.
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