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Offline Steve Ruch

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Bad hops
« on: February 04, 2024, 08:42:44 am »
On Friday I opened up one of the hop packs from a grab bag I got at the homebrew club Christmas party. It smelled like vomit. After I subbed out some good hops I opened up the other 20 packs and all but four of them had the same smell. The four had no smell at all, good or bad. I tossed the lot into the trash.
I'm not all that upset about it as they were free, but I won't ever buy anything from a hop supplier who thinks it's a good idea to give away s***e to someone who might be a paying customer some day.
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Re: Bad hops
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2024, 08:54:24 am »
Did a homebrew store donate these to the Christmas party or did a club member include them in the grab bag?
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Re: Bad hops
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2024, 09:24:04 am »
Did a homebrew store donate these to the Christmas party or did a club member include them in the grab bag?

Yeah. I've found that a reputable supplier will give you good stuff for prizes because their reputation depends on quality. Bot a store or person may just want to get rid of stuff they have laying around.
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Re: Bad hops
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2024, 09:58:08 am »
On Friday I opened up one of the hop packs from a grab bag I got at the homebrew club Christmas party. It smelled like vomit. After I subbed out some good hops I opened up the other 20 packs and all but four of them had the same smell. The four had no smell at all, good or bad. I tossed the lot into the trash.
I'm not all that upset about it as they were free, but I won't ever buy anything from a hop supplier who thinks it's a good idea to give away s***e to someone who might be a paying customer some day.

were they fuggles?

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Re: Bad hops
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2024, 12:12:55 pm »
On Friday I opened up one of the hop packs from a grab bag I got at the homebrew club Christmas party. It smelled like vomit. After I subbed out some good hops I opened up the other 20 packs and all but four of them had the same smell. The four had no smell at all, good or bad. I tossed the lot into the trash.
I'm not all that upset about it as they were free, but I won't ever buy anything from a hop supplier who thinks it's a good idea to give away s***e to someone who might be a paying customer some day.

were they fuggles?

A possibility!  ;)
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Re: Bad hops
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2024, 07:26:31 pm »
Were they sealed by the manufacturer or repackaged?
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Offline Steve Ruch

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Re: Bad hops
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2024, 06:53:00 am »
Did a homebrew store donate these to the Christmas party or did a club member include them in the grab bag?
The packaging had the name of the hop supplier so I think it came from them.
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Re: Bad hops
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2024, 06:54:35 am »
On Friday I opened up one of the hop packs from a grab bag I got at the homebrew club Christmas party. It smelled like vomit. After I subbed out some good hops I opened up the other 20 packs and all but four of them had the same smell. The four had no smell at all, good or bad. I tossed the lot into the trash.
I'm not all that upset about it as they were free, but I won't ever buy anything from a hop supplier who thinks it's a good idea to give away s***e to someone who might be a paying customer some day.

were they fuggles?
No. The very worst were cashmere.
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Re: Bad hops
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2024, 08:37:05 am »
It turns out that the hops did not come from the supplier listed on the packages: Michigan hop allience. They don't deal in sizes smaller than a pound and don't give away samples.
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Re: Bad hops
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2024, 08:41:15 am »
It turns out that the hops did not come from the supplier listed on the packages: Michigan hop allience. They don't deal in sizes smaller than a pound and don't give away samples.
👍👍 to Michigan hop allience.
 Even though they didn't supply the samples and I didn't actually purchase anything from them they provided me with some fresh cashmere hops on the house. They smelled fantastic and I plan to use them in an IPA early next month.
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Re: Bad hops
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2024, 09:09:59 am »
It turns out that the hops did not come from the supplier listed on the packages: Michigan hop allience. They don't deal in sizes smaller than a pound and don't give away samples.
👍👍 to Michigan hop allience.
 Even though they didn't supply the samples and I didn't actually purchase anything from them they provided me with some fresh cashmere hops on the house. They smelled fantastic and I plan to use them in an IPA early next month.

Brian not only has great hops, he's a great guy.
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Re: Bad hops
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2024, 02:02:22 pm »
It turns out that the hops did not come from the supplier listed on the packages: Michigan hop allience. They don't deal in sizes smaller than a pound and don't give away samples.
👍👍 to Michigan hop allience.
 Even though they didn't supply the samples and I didn't actually purchase anything from them they provided me with some fresh cashmere hops on the house. They smelled fantastic and I plan to use them in an IPA early next month.

Brian not only has great hops, he's a great guy.

I can confirm he is a great guy. I love the Michigan hops he grows.

I have to tell y'all that he donated Michigan Chinook to my local brewery for an event the wife and I do for Pints for Prostates. The hops were so fresh and aromatic. The 10 bbl batch sold out in 8 weeks, and so many people said it was excellent.

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Re: Bad hops
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2024, 09:20:19 am »
11 days ago I brewed a smash IPA with the cashmere to 60 IBUs. 1.060 with Crisp #19 maris otter. Fermented with nottingham.
Final gravity reading was 1.014. It tastes awesome and I dry hopped with one oz, in three gallons.
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