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Why do YOU keg?
« on: April 04, 2013, 07:32:20 am »
What are the reasons you keg? Personally, I've found that kegging doesn't save much time over bottling. Kegging involves a lot of cleaning: cleaning lines, kegs, dip tubes, posts/poppets, faucets, and more.  It takes me an hour and a half, roughly, to bottle a batch. It might take me half an hour to keg the same batch. BUT, that doesn't include all the cleaning and sanitizing after the keg kicks.  With bottling, I just have to triple rinse the bottle after I pour it and that's that. There's also more moving parts for contamination to hide with kegging.
I know and understand the benefits of kegging, as I've been kegging since the beginning of 2010.  I just want to know why you guys do it.

I like having the variety of bottles. I can have 5 or 6 kinds of beer in my beer fridge to choose from and I don't feel bad if I don't drink on a particular beer for a week. But with my kegerator, which is 2 taps, I feel like I have to drink those more regularly and I'm not always in the mood for the same beer night after night.

Anyway, I want to know what you guys think.

Cheers & beers.
Jesse

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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2013, 07:41:31 am »
I'm new, not an expert. Here are reasons why, not in any particular order.

1. Draft beer tastes better to me.
2. Wife often works opposite shift and hates clink of bottles.
3. Less curiosity of carbing properly
4. Kegerator is more impressive to non home brewers
5. More fun, less work, better beer

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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2013, 07:52:40 am »
I think that kegs are infinitely easier to fill than bottles. Instead of juggling 50+ individual, breakable components - i am only juggling one. The time it takes to clean a keg isn't that bad either. A little PBW, hot water and starsan. No reason it should take very long. Once again - i am only cleaning one item with a few components.

There is no guess work either regarding carbonation level. I set my psi on the regulator and walk away. I can be drinking my beer in two days rather than waiting for bottle conditioning which we all know can either be inconsistent and/or a long wait of 2 weeks +.

With kegs, you still have the option to bottle as well. You can slap a beergun on the keg and fill a few bottles as needed rather that committing all of your beer to bottles right off the bat. Most of my beer is drank at home so why go through all the bottling effort when ultimately only a few will be consumed off premise.

those are my top reasons. cheers.
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2013, 07:53:17 am »
I have 4 taps for variety isn't a big issue for me.

My big reason for kegging are:

1) Convenience
2) Storage space (10 kegs take less space than 20 cases)
3) Parties - it is much easier to host a party with beer on tap than in bottles.  Clean up is trash bags instead of 3 hours of doing dishes.  It is also easier to take beer to a party than to haul bottles around.
4) Rapid packaging.  I can fill a keg (or 2) and clean up the fermentor/s in 1/2 an hour or so.  Sanitation is one container, not 50+.

Maintenance has not been that big of an issue for.  Cleaning the lines can be done while I'm cleaning 4 or 5 kegs at once.  15 minutes now and then to clean the lines is easy to fit in my schedule.  I may spend a couple of hours cleaning kegs every couple of months but that feels more efficient to me than having to clean bottles every couple of days.

To each their own.  I still have some bottles around but not nearly as many as I used to have.

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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2013, 07:54:01 am »
The biggest advantage to me is that I can pour myself whatever volume I want.
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2013, 08:01:02 am »
Kegging is twice as fast as bottling, if not more. If you find yourself spending hours cleaning lines you need to find a quicker process. I don't clean my lines after every batch, either, and don't think there is a need to.

Regardless, it's easier to dial in the co2 on draft beer and less chance of infection. And I agree, often draft beer does taste better. Commercial bottled beer is often overcarbonated for my tastes.

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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2013, 08:01:22 am »
1. Time.  It is much easier kegging than bottling and takes less time.
2. Cleaning is easy.  Homemade keg cleaner (bucket, pump, line and disconnects).  Stick it on and let it rip.  Also clean lines with gadget featured on AHA site.
3.  Easier to store 30 gallons (6 kegs current ) than a bunch of bottles
4.  Cleaner product, especially since I like to brew a lot of lagers.  No sediment in keg after first couple pints, unlike bottles which have sediment in each
5.  Looks cool  8)
6.  And Amanda's reason to pull exactly how much I want...sometimes just a small glass, others a liter or two  :o
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2013, 08:01:54 am »
I like having the variety of bottles. I can have 5 or 6 kinds of beer in my beer fridge to choose from and I don't feel bad if I don't drink on a particular beer for a week. But with my kegerator, which is 2 taps, I feel like I have to drink those more regularly and I'm not always in the mood for the same beer night after night.

I find myself bottling more these days for exactly these reasons.

I prefer kegging, however, as it's just easier to get it done.  I can clean the kegs at my convenience and keep them sealed under pressure so they're ready to go.  Filling a keg is simple and does not require the hands-on attention that bottling does, which is important for me as I have usually at least two children interrupting at any one time.  Serving and clean-up are nice and easy, too.

I find that bottles create a ton of clutter. I have empties everywhere.  The bottle tree takes up space.  Etc.
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2013, 08:04:28 am »
i still bottle and find it relatively easy and fast.  though, i only brew 2gallon batches at a time.  the real reasons for me shifting to kegs in the future is the pouring how much out at a time.  also i am not a big fan of the sediment in a bottle and the beer lost there. i do think i am going to only bottle 16-20 ouncers in the future making it even easier. i am experimenting with plastic bottles as well
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2013, 08:11:09 am »
1/  Quick, accurate carbonation (which can be fine tuned, if need be).
2/  It is faster.
3/  I think it tastes better.
4/  Party friendly, for cleanup. A kitchen full of empty bottles that suddenly need rinsed from a party is a PITA also.
5/  I can fill anything from a sample glass to a growler or stein.
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2013, 08:23:02 am »
Man all that mess you do to your keg IMHO is wayyyyy overkill. I just kegged a batch last night and it took me all of 10 minutes. Took the keg with the few ounces of leftover beer in it to the sink, rinse, fill with a half gallon of water and some Sanitizer. Put the lid on, shake it up, hook up co2 and flow solution through your dispensing tube. Empty keg and fill with new beer. Done. I've done 100 batches like this and never had a problem. So to answer your question, my reason I keg is because its cheaper. I don't waste bottles, priming sugar, caps, time, and Sanitizer when I keg. It costs me between $28 and $35 to brew a 5 gallon batch of whatever. 

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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2013, 08:59:42 am »
I can lager 8 kegs in my chest freezer. One reason.
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2013, 09:06:33 am »
When I graduated to all grain, I made my own chiller out of 40' of 3/8 copper.  That lead to carpal tunnel.  Even with a bottle brush on an electric drill, cleaning bottles was sheer agony.  My wonderful wife said,"Wouldn't kegging be easier?"

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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2013, 09:26:53 am »
I can lager 8 kegs in my chest freezer. One reason.
This here is one reason I'd stick with kegging. Don't want to mess with bottling lagers, adding yeast at bottling, etc.
But carbonation isn't much of an issue with bottling is you know what you're doing. Neither is sanitizing bottles if you clean them out properly after you pour a beer. I don't think kegging is cheaper. The upfront cost is way greater, you still have to pay to replace lines, moving parts once in a while, deal with possible CO2 leaks or even liquid post leaks. I'm not arguing that bottling is better, I just think it's simpler. Sure it's more work on bottling day, but that's it, it's a one time deal. Kegging requires ongoing maintenance, which isn't necessarily bad or inconvenient.
Thanks for you input. I really enjoy kegging also, but enjoy the experience of opening a bottle of beer. I guess that's why I still do both.
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2013, 10:56:48 am »
quicker to package, quicker to carbonate beers that benefit from freshness, less variability in carbonation, cool factor of having a 4 tap keggerator I built myself, variable pours (I like an 11 ounce glass).

There is a certain satisfaction to operating a bottle capper, but that wears off after 6 bottles.  I like to bottle my aging beers, however, and like to give bottles away.
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