[lupy]

This is based on a10t2's recipe:
10.00 lb Pilsner (2 Row) Bel (2.0 SRM) 70.18 %
2.00 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM)  14.04 %
0.50 lb Special B Malt (180.0 SRM)  3.51 %
1.00 lb Table Sugar (0.0 SRM)  7.02 %     (Cane or Beet - does it matter?)                 
0.75 lb D2 Belgian Candy Syrup (160.0 SRM)  5.26 %  (hopefully enough @ $11.75 per bottle )
1 Pkgs Abbey Ale (White Labs #WLP530) [Starter 6 Cup]

Not sure what hops yet.....suggestions?
Seems like a lot of sugar.?

I was gonna mash at 150-

Any suggestions or insights are greatly appreciated. This will be my first Belgian style brew.
Thnaks

[bluesman]

I used about 10% candy syrup. I would replace the table sugar with all candy syrup. It will make a real tasty Dubbel.

[a10t2]

(hopefully enough @ $11.75 per bottle )

You're getting hosed, man... that stuff should be more like $5/lb. I would get rid of the table sugar and just go with 1.5 or 2 lb of the D2, assuming you can get it at a reasonable price.

Not sure what hops yet.....suggestions?

Anything noble will work; Saaz is what I usually use. Mt. Hood, Tettnanger, anything like that, you only need enough for a bittering addition of about 25 IBU.

[lupy]

I wanted to use all syrup but just couldn't pay the price for two bottles. I'll try to track it down for less money, but in the mean time brew a cream ale to please the masses.
Thanks again.

[a10t2]

Just to be clear, we're talking about this stuff, right? When you said "bottle" it made me wonder if there's another manufacturer out there.

[dbeechum]

Yeah, they switched packaging formats. Used to come in bottles.

[denny]

Yeah, they switched packaging formats. Used to come in bottles.

And that's actually a smaller amount than the bottles contained.

[dbeechum]

Hadn't realised that - no siree

[lupy]

So the bottles are older? I thought perhaps they were newer.
The LHBS website indicates the bottle to weigh 0.75lbs while the NB pack weighs 1lb. Am I missing something? Is the bottle more concentrated?
If this stuff has a long shelf life I'm sure I could justify placing an ordering with NB.

Would 1lb be enough for 5.5gal? I'd need to bump-up the pils or munich to get my OG near 1.070. With 11lbs of pils malt and 1lb of D2 I'd have ~70% and ~7% of the grain bill. <think that'll be good?

[denny]

The bottles I've gotten in the past (and still have) weigh 25 oz.  Accounting for the liquid, that's equivalent of 1 lb. of sugar in terms of gravity points.  So, if the new packs weigh 1 lb., you're getting fewer gravity points from them.

[lupy]

I got a bit of conflicting info between the LHBS website and the store. No worries.
I must say that the stuff I bought was not syrup. It looks like tar, is gelatineous and does not level. I am going on the faith that it is like honey and will be fine when heated.
Pron>

[denny]

That's the right stuff.  Don't know why your weight's so high, though.

[bluesman]

I use the same stuff as well but it is not gelatinous. It should be like the cosistency of molasses. I wonder if it was frozen at some point?
The weight seems about right. 16oz=1.5lbs. Right?

[denny]

The weight seems about right. 16oz=1.5lbs. Right?

Yep, you're right...I was reading it as 1.9 lb., not 1 lb. 9 oz.  Including the bottle weight, that's right on.

[lupy]

I use the same stuff as well but it is not gelatinous. It should be like the cosistency of molasses. I wonder if it was frozen at some point?

Do you think this stuff will be OK? I intend to soften it in a hot water bath in hopes that it will liquify.
The starter is on the plate now, so it's gonna be a few days before I brew.