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I am the odd man out here because I use a secondary for almost every batch. Most of my beers sit five to six weeks before they are kegged. There's no way that I am letting a beer sit on the lees for that long. One does not have worry about the yeast breaking down as much as one has to worry about the break and hop material adding a harsh edge to the beer.I am also of the school that oxidation is not a major problem when racking to a secondary because yeast cells are still in suspension. Any O2 that is introduced during racking will be rapidly scrubbed from the green beer by suspended yeast cells. Charlie Bamforth concurs with this assessment. The time to seriously worry about cold side oxidation is after beer has been filtered. That doesn't mean that brewers can go crazy when racking. It just means that there are greater sources of oxidation than racking, like not using a length of tubing on one's mash tun ball valve and allowing one's runoff ro shoot out of the valve like water from a fire hydrant. That's a recipe for trans-2-nonenal precursor production because lipoxygenase is still active.
I get very different opinions as to whether or not you should move the beer from the primary fermented into another carboy after the first week of fermentation. Many books totally ignore the concept of a secondary fermentation. Some people have told me that a secondary robs the process from reaching full fermentation. Others say not doing a secondary causes the dead yeast to encourage bad tastes. But I've never seen a "pro-s and con's" analysis...What's the general consensus here?Why do a secondary?How critical is it?What's the down-side?Does it depend on the type of beer?Thanks for your input.
I am also of the school that oxidation is not a major problem when racking to a secondary because yeast cells are still in suspension.
The post-fermentation O2 staling claim in John's post was debunked by by N. Hashimoto in 1974. John's new claim is yet another example of a new home brewer myth replacing an older home brewing myth.Much of Charlie Bamforth's research has been in the area beer staling. Charlie explains why the introduction of O2 while yeast is still in suspension is not a problem starting at time 24:45 in the video linked below. He also supports what I said about O2 not being a major problem until the yeast cells are filtered from the beer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm2t_5HrMccIn the end, the choice to use a secondary or not is up to the brewer and his/her brewing capacity/schedule. However, the staling argument for not racking is a non-sequitur. Staling is not a major problem while yeast cells are still in suspension.
That's all well and fine but it doesn't explain why oxidation has occurred in my personal experience. If the assertion were true you'd think unfiltered beer wouldn't oxidize but it does. I've had unfiltered hoppy ales get mishandled and the hop oils have oxidized in a very, very short time. Also, narcout brings up an excellent point. How does yeast metabolize the o2 if they are otherwise dormant?
Also, narcout brings up an excellent point. How does yeast metabolize the o2 if they are otherwise dormant?