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Most of the British seasonals that White Labs offers should have more British character than WLP002, which is probably why they are seasonals. Have you ever tried Wyeast 1318?
This is supposedly what Tired Hands Brewing uses for their APA, although that beer is heavily hopped so I'm not sure the character would be noticeable.
Quote from: Joe Sr. on October 22, 2015, 12:32:21 pmExtrapolate, please. Too bland? Other than real Ringwood (which we can't get) what would you use?I'll be tempted to do a split batch and compare."WLP033 Klassic Ale YeastTraditional English style, single strain yeast. Produces signature ester character, and does not mask hop character. Leaves ale with a slightly sweet malt character. Best for bitters, milds, porters, and stouts. Also good for Scottish style ales."
Extrapolate, please. Too bland? Other than real Ringwood (which we can't get) what would you use?I'll be tempted to do a split batch and compare.
Is there a readily available commercial beer that is bottle conditioned with the true ringwood strain and from which it can be cultured?
"WLP033 Klassic Ale YeastTraditional English style, single strain yeast. Produces signature ester character, and does not mask hop character. Leaves ale with a slightly sweet malt character. Best for bitters, milds, porters, and stouts. Also good for Scottish style ales."I want to get me some of this!
Coming from New England, I'm familiar with a lot of these breweries. Most of them produce good beer, some of them produce excellent beer, but a handful produce dirty butter-bombs.
Quote from: erockrph on October 23, 2015, 07:29:32 amComing from New England, I'm familiar with a lot of these breweries. Most of them produce good beer, some of them produce excellent beer, but a handful produce dirty butter-bombs.I get more butterscotch than butter when Ringwood is not handled correctly. Like most Yorkshire cultures, Ringwood has high O2 demands.
Quote from: Frankenbrew on October 22, 2015, 02:55:55 pm"WLP033 Klassic Ale YeastTraditional English style, single strain yeast. Produces signature ester character, and does not mask hop character. Leaves ale with a slightly sweet malt character. Best for bitters, milds, porters, and stouts. Also good for Scottish style ales."
Yeah, I'll drop them a line. I'm a lover of English bitter, but I'm always dissapointed that I can't seem to make them like they make them across the pond. I would love to even come close to some of the real ales that I had when I was there.
Quote from: chumley on October 22, 2015, 10:37:31 amActually, Wyeast discontinued WY1742 Swedish Porter yeast, which they got from Carnegie Porter, when they discovered that it was the same as their WY1187 Ringwood yeast. They were selling the same yeast under different numbers at the same time.I believe that Sinebrychoff is another baltic porter made with this yeast. I think brewing baltic porters wih lager yeast is more of a Polish-Russian thing.Interesting. I just picked up some Sinebrychoff recently. I will have to give it a taste-test with that in mind. Maybe I can convince my palate that there is some diacetyl hidden in there armed with this info
Actually, Wyeast discontinued WY1742 Swedish Porter yeast, which they got from Carnegie Porter, when they discovered that it was the same as their WY1187 Ringwood yeast. They were selling the same yeast under different numbers at the same time.I believe that Sinebrychoff is another baltic porter made with this yeast. I think brewing baltic porters wih lager yeast is more of a Polish-Russian thing.
It has a ester profile when young that can best be described as lollipop.
By the way, I do not know how much pull you have with Wyeast, but I would appreciate your putting a plug in for me. I have been waiting for them to re-release Wyeast 2272, so that I do not have to purchase it from Siebel. I do not believe that Wyeast has released 2272 since 2011.