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Doppelbock into Eisbock
« on: February 21, 2016, 12:04:23 AM »
Anyone have a good doppelbock recipe that could be freeze concentrated into a good eisbock?

Looking to brew a 5 gallon batch of doppelbock and freeze a portion of it to make a great eisbock so I can have both the dopple and the eis out of one brewday. I understand that concentrating the doppelbock can lead to flavors being intensified and potentially cloying if the original beer recipe is not considered for freezing. Any thoughts?

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Re: Doppelbock into Eisbock
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2016, 09:28:15 PM »
Anyone have a good doppelbock recipe that could be freeze concentrated into a good eisbock?

Looking to brew a 5 gallon batch of doppelbock and freeze a portion of it to make a great eisbock so I can have both the dopple and the eis out of one brewday. I understand that concentrating the doppelbock can lead to flavors being intensified and potentially cloying if the original beer recipe is not considered for freezing. Any thoughts?
We just tapped a half barrel batch of jamils doppelbock, fermented with 34/70.  The base beer is excellent.  We are considering eising one keg of the three, so I'm following this thread!

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Re: Doppelbock into Eisbock
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2016, 10:36:24 PM »
I have been looking at some recipes online and am slowly formulating one in my head which will eventually get transcribed into Promash as soon as I wrap my head around what I am looking for.

If you decide to "eis" one of those kegs, please let me know how it turns out...

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Re: Doppelbock into Eisbock
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2016, 10:45:25 PM »
A few months back, I just brewed an off the top of my head bock and eised it.  Pretty much all Best Munich II, I think maybe a touch of crystal.
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Re: Doppelbock into Eisbock
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2016, 10:46:33 PM »
A few months back, I just brewed an off the top of my head bock and eised it.  Pretty much all Best Munich II, I think maybe a touch of crystal.

How did the eis verson come out?

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Re: Doppelbock into Eisbock
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2016, 10:49:03 PM »
A few months back, I just brewed an off the top of my head bock and eised it.  Pretty much all Best Munich II, I think maybe a touch of crystal.

How did the eis verson come out?

Excellent, although it was a learning experience trying to find the proper temp to eis it.  Since I  with a bock base, it wasn't as strong, which is what I wanted.
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Re: Doppelbock into Eisbock
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2016, 10:50:29 PM »
Did you like the all Munich II base in there, or was it too much?

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Re: Doppelbock into Eisbock
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2016, 11:07:09 PM »
Did you like the all Munich II base in there, or was it too much?

Definitely not too much (too much what?), but I make a lot of all/mostly Munich II beers.  I'm not sure you could make a bock any other way.
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Re: Doppelbock into Eisbock
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2016, 12:01:46 AM »
Did you like the all Munich II base in there, or was it too much?

Definitely not too much (too much what?), but I make a lot of all/mostly Munich II beers.  I'm not sure you could make a bock any other way.

I guess it depends on the lovibond of that Munich II.  For example I use a dark munich that is 15L.  If I used that for 100% it might be a bit over the top to maintain a drinkable bock, at least for me. I do no-sparge a lot of brews too which could also be contributing to that extra malt punch.

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Re: Doppelbock into Eisbock
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2016, 01:51:34 AM »
I'm pretty sure jamils is 80/10 Munich and pils with the other 10 as cara Munich 60 giving it the toasty note.  I would highly recommend 2206. 

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Re: Doppelbock into Eisbock
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2016, 02:46:45 AM »
Did you like the all Munich II base in there, or was it too much?

Definitely not too much (too much what?), but I make a lot of all/mostly Munich II beers.  I'm not sure you could make a bock any other way.

I guess it depends on the lovibond of that Munich II.  For example I use a dark munich that is 15L.  If I used that for 100% it might be a bit over the top to maintain a drinkable bock, at least for me. I do no-sparge a lot of brews too which could also be contributing to that extra malt punch.

Got it...the Best I use is about 10
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Re: Doppelbock into Eisbock
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2016, 06:59:40 PM »
Denny what method did you use to freeze distill?  We have about 4 gallons sitting in a corny keg.  I would prefer not to rack it again, but I can if need be. 
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Re: Doppelbock into Eisbock
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2016, 07:55:11 PM »
Denny what method did you use to freeze distill?  We have about 4 gallons sitting in a corny keg.  I would prefer not to rack it again, but I can if need be.

I used a bucket to make it easy to remove the ice.
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Re: Doppelbock into Eisbock
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2016, 08:51:15 PM »
I use kegs and just blow it out the liquid port. Works pretty well as long as you don't over freeze the dang thing
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Re: Doppelbock into Eisbock
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2016, 09:11:02 PM »
I use kegs and just blow it out the liquid port. Works pretty well as long as you don't over freeze the dang thing

I thought about that but I was concerned with having liquid freeze in the dip tube.
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