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Bittering with chinook question
« on: May 14, 2016, 03:48:05 PM »
In theory I know the answer to this but wanted some experienced advice.

I usually use magnum for bittering addition for my IPAs.  I wanted to try bittering with chinook this time and wondering what the difference will be everything else being equal.  Specifically, will there be any taste difference (increased pine?) or just a different (less mellow) bitter.

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Re: Bittering with chinook question
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2016, 03:53:38 PM »
Depending you how much Chinook you use, you might get a little bit of pine.  But you may never notice it, either.  IMO, Chinook is a much better bittering hop for IPA than Magnum is.
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Re: Bittering with chinook question
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2016, 03:57:21 PM »
In theory I know the answer to this but wanted some experienced advice.

I usually use magnum for bittering addition for my IPAs.  I wanted to try bittering with chinook this time and wondering what the difference will be everything else being equal.  Specifically, will there be any taste difference (increased pine?) or just a different (less mellow) bitter.

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+1.  Magnum gives a smooth, pretty neutral bitterness where Chinook gives a more coarse IPA-like bitterness. I bitter IPAs with either Chinook or Columbus.
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Re: Bittering with chinook question
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2016, 04:04:09 PM »
I used to bitter APA and IPA with Magnum but Denny talked me into Chinook. I do same IBUs away before. To me its a sharper, brighter, bitterness and supports the other flavor/aroma hops better when using American late hops.

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Re: Bittering with chinook question
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2016, 05:17:26 PM »
Now you type this.  Just back back from LHBS with some Magnum for the APA I'm brewing this coming week.  LOL!  Well, I'm still going to use it for this batch but what would you use Magnum for?  'Cuz I will have a bunch left over!
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Re: Bittering with chinook question
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2016, 05:59:44 PM »
Now you type this.  Just back back from LHBS with some Magnum for the APA I'm brewing this coming week.  LOL!  Well, I'm still going to use it for this batch but what would you use Magnum for?  'Cuz I will have a bunch left over!


Lagers, or any beer where you want a smooth, neutral, clean bitterness.
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Re: Bittering with chinook question
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2016, 06:33:19 PM »
Remember that if you find 100% Chinook bittering to be a little too resiny/rough, just back it off and use a combo Chinook/Magnum.  You'll be able to find the ratio that is perfect for your tastes with a few tries.
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Re: Bittering with chinook question
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2016, 07:02:40 PM »
In theory I know the answer to this but wanted some experienced advice.

I usually use magnum for bittering addition for my IPAs.  I wanted to try bittering with chinook this time and wondering what the difference will be everything else being equal.  Specifically, will there be any taste difference (increased pine?) or just a different (less mellow) bitter.

Thanks



+1.  Magnum gives a smooth, pretty neutral bitterness where Chinook gives a more coarse IPA-like bitterness. I bitter IPAs with either Chinook or Columbus.

Same with me... Especially Columbus. I actually never buy magnum. I'll use warrior for neutral bittering. I also use nugget in most porters and stouts.
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Re: Bittering with chinook question
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2016, 08:59:31 PM »
Now you type this.  Just back back from LHBS with some Magnum for the APA I'm brewing this coming week.  LOL!  Well, I'm still going to use it for this batch but what would you use Magnum for?  'Cuz I will have a bunch left over!


Lagers, or any beer where you want a smooth, neutral, clean bitterness.
+1. Magnum is my go-to bittering hop for higher-gravity lagers (i.e. Bock, Dopplebock, etc). You can use a half ounce or so and get most of the bittering you need. You'd need several ounces of a lower alpha hop to get the same.

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Re: Bittering with chinook question
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2016, 04:17:21 AM »
Cool, thanks, decision made
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Re: Bittering with chinook question
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2016, 04:19:55 PM »
Now you type this.  Just back back from LHBS with some Magnum for the APA I'm brewing this coming week.  LOL!  Well, I'm still going to use it for this batch but what would you use Magnum for?  'Cuz I will have a bunch left over!


Lagers, or any beer where you want a smooth, neutral, clean bitterness.
+1. Magnum is my go-to bittering hop for higher-gravity lagers (i.e. Bock, Dopplebock, etc). You can use a half ounce or so and get most of the bittering you need. You'd need several ounces of a lower alpha hop to get the same.

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Re: Bittering with chinook question
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2016, 05:44:55 PM »
I've settled on first wort hopping with Chinook for roughly 50% of my IPA IBUs and also use a 60 minute addition of another more neutral bittering hop for the other 50%.  Works well in my IPA.

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Re: Bittering with chinook question
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2016, 06:37:38 PM »
I've settled on first wort hopping with Chinook for roughly 50% of my IPA IBUs and also use a 60 minute addition of another more neutral bittering hop for the other 50%.  Works well in my IPA.

By this, is it safe to assume you mean that this applies to the BITTERING additions, and the flavor/aroma additions are counted separately?
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Re: Bittering with chinook question
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2016, 02:38:42 AM »
I mainly use Cluster when I use a kettle-only hop.   

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Re: Bittering with chinook question
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2016, 03:14:07 AM »
I've settled on first wort hopping with Chinook for roughly 50% of my IPA IBUs and also use a 60 minute addition of another more neutral bittering hop for the other 50%.  Works well in my IPA.

By this, is it safe to assume you mean that this applies to the BITTERING additions, and the flavor/aroma additions are counted separately?
Yes.  Although I tend not to do any other hop additions until 5 minutes left in the boil for my IPAs.